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[racechick]

AAAAH my computer keeps doing this (sending things twice)

[bmwpower]

With all this Alonso bashing, why are McLaren fanboys (fangirls) leaving one person out?? Pedro?? Hundreds of emails (please don't denial this since its been accepted by RD) was sent between Alonso, Pedro, and a few mechanics. Why are they still innocent in your eyes??? and why is the focus on Alonso?? because he trhew the case wide open? That's all you McLaren fanboys have?? attacking Alonso but can't defend the case for McLaren?? I am hearing is a bunch of cried babies about what Alonso did to team and he divided the team, so he's a rat but you still can't denied the truth that was handled down by the WSC. Your other "loyal" test driver was involved knee deep in this garbage and along with Alonso they both have immunity from the WSC and protection from the FIA. Stop your crying and accept the punishment and move on.

[aboldero]

Alonso, De La Rosa, and Mike coughlan were involved...

Coughlan has been sacked, and the other two should be... simple as that...

McLaren are innocent, as the FIA would see if they too RD on his offer of a visit to the MTC to see the designs and logs on the simulator, which would prove that the settings talked about by the three idiots mentioned above were never tried... therefore there was no use of the Ferrari intellectual property by the team, and therefore they have been penalised for NOT breaking the rules!!!

[McLaren Fan]

Alonso threatened Ron Dennis with the truth, why is he getting all this flack?

In F1 circles Ron Dennis is a very powerful man and has a lot of friends in the media, Ron can spin things all he likes if a driver pisses him off.

This is why Max Moseley is offering Alonso protection, because it is the right thing to do.

From what I've seen all the media have been doing is bumming up Ferrari. As for Mosley, we all know his personal grudges and we have to ask under what rule is his protecting Alonso? Ferrari have been deliberately disadvantaging drivers for years and have got away with it, giving the better, more reliable and newer parts to Schumacher. Once again, one rule for Ferrari, another rule for everybody else.

[KyrosV]

I feel sorry for alonso, he's getting alot of stick form the media for just doin his job and you guys belive them.... Its all spin because the media want Hamilton to win.

But now Hamilton hasnt got information from the Alonso side now and it shows!! The most important thing for a rookie in there first year is to learn from there more experianced team mates not dish dirt on them. If Lewis is left to take the McLaren team forward next season then I feel so very sorry for them.

[8-ball]

I feel sorry for alonso, he's getting alot of stick form the media for just doin his job and you guys belive them.... Its all spin because the media want Hamilton to win.

But now Hamilton hasnt got information from the Alonso side now and it shows!! The most important thing for a rookie in there first year is to learn from there more experianced team mates not dish dirt on them. If Lewis is left to take the McLaren team forward next season then I feel so very sorry for them.

i dont agree that the media has spun any info on Alonso but i do agree that LH should be learning from him instead of fighting him. Alonso has held back set up info for the car and LH hasn't been able to beat him!

[supeindesu]

Again... let's see if your tiny little brains accepts at least the fact that THOSE EMAILS WHERE SENT BEFORE the contacts between engineers, and they talk about especifications that everybody knows about the other teams (instead they say it's top secret).

Every team on F1 knows (best or worst) the weights distribution, and the new solutions that other teams are testing.

McLaren tries to clean his own image just spitting on those who developes his car to win... great, let's see what'll happen next year if Pedro and Fernando goes... ¿Lewis? HA HA HA

[racechick]

With all this Alonso bashing, why are McLaren fanboys (fangirls) leaving one person out?? Pedro?? Hundreds of emails (please don't denial this since its been accepted by RD) was sent between Alonso, Pedro, and a few mechanics. Why are they still innocent in your eyes??? and why is the focus on Alonso?? because he trhew the case wide open? That's all you McLaren fanboys have?? attacking Alonso but can't defend the case for McLaren?? I am hearing is a bunch of cried babies about what Alonso did to team and he divided the team, so he's a rat but you still can't denied the truth that was handled down by the WSC. Your other "loyal" test driver was involved knee deep in this garbage and along with Alonso they both have immunity from the WSC and protection from the FIA. Stop your crying and accept the punishment and move on.

McLaren were innocent as has been pointed out so they did not deserve that punishment, they did not use Ferrari information but FIA not interested in truth.
I do agree with you about Pedro, he is as implicated as Alonso. If this texting is considered bad enough to warrant a massive fine then BOTH perpetrators should be punished. NOT INNOCENT PARTIES!

[pussycat]

...his prima donna attitude, being a very sore loser, criticising the team, znd thinking he is the main man, never mind the 1000 other workers at the team.

Perfect description of Lewis`attitude...

Since when did you start working for MM? Did you get a share of the profits?

[Lewisfan]

I feel sorry for alonso, he's getting alot of stick form the media for just doin his job and you guys belive them.... Its all spin because the media want Hamilton to win.

But now Hamilton hasnt got information from the Alonso side now and it shows!! The most important thing for a rookie in there first year is to learn from there more experianced team mates not dish dirt on them. If Lewis is left to take the McLaren team forward next season then I feel so very sorry for them.

i dont agree that the media has spun any info on Alonso but i do agree that LH should be learning from him instead of fighting him. Alonso has held back set up info for the car and LH hasn't been able to beat him!

Lewis don't need to learn nothing from this hotheaded fool, haven't Lewis be leading the WDC for the past several months and he a Rookie. Lewis, don't need to learn anything from some cheat and ignorant man like alonso.

[Lewisfan]

Again... let's see if your tiny little brains accepts at least the fact that THOSE EMAILS WHERE SENT BEFORE the contacts between engineers, and they talk about especifications that everybody knows about the other teams (instead they say it's top secret).

Every team on F1 knows (best or worst) the weights distribution, and the new solutions that other teams are testing.

McLaren tries to clean his own image just spitting on those who developes his car to win... great, let's see what'll happen next year if Pedro and Fernando goes... ¿Lewis? HA HA HA

McLaren, wouldn't have to worry about losing $100 million in fines, Lewis is great!!! McLaren and BMW, Ferriar don't want Alonso and that a fact.

[aboldero]

sorry Lewisfan, but LH will have learnt alot from FA, and he is the first to admit he still has ALOT to learn..

he may be leading the championship, but that does not mean he has nothing to learn.. but he does have alot more sense than FA, in that he understands that he is just one member of a very large organisation, and although he gets the credit he cannot win without the backing to the team around him.

[Selcouth_Feline]

Intereting to note that during the WMSC hearings, Ron Dennis actually said that he was not on speaking terms with Alonso after the Hungarian GP.

I don't like RD but I should think it would have to have been one almighty falling out for RD to not be on speaking terms with Alonso - most bosses will retain at least some level of civility, even if they don't like their employees.

[aboldero]

what do you expect?

if you were FA and you walked upto RD and told him that if he didn't make you the number 1, then you'd give out some info that would, eventually get them fined $100million and excluded from the championship..

would you expect him to shake your hand and take you out for dinner afterwards??

[darwin dali]

Nah, just bend him over and do him doggy-style like he always does with his driver-bitches
But FA probably objected and they had some Brokeback Mountain-style wrestling going on.