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[headless]

I did want Alonso there for the fact of he is a contender....but he did run a risky car

Surtees died through that sort of act.

No he didn't, the tire that hit Surtees was from a car that had recently gone off the track and violently slammed into a wall ripping off the left rear tire along with the wing and some of the rear suspension, they didn't drive around the track with a loose wheel after a pit stop. What happened to Surtees was the result of a crash, not the result of a careless pit stop, the two instances should not be compared.

Thought so.

Penalty for the whole team, because its a team game maybe?

[Hexagram]

It deserves a penalty! Even though I would not give one for it as crap like that has happened in F1 before and the Stewards did nothing about it but it arguably deserves a penalty.

Banning Renault from the next race though is totally over the top. A heavy fine, a suspended race ban and a general slap on wrist is all that's needed.

[yamashek]

I'd hope the FIA can rethink how to punish Renault...

maybe make a suspended sentence like for Mclaren this year.... or just make them score no constructor points for the rest of year?
I think it might be better for Spanish fans in Valencia...


or better yet...

FIA should just say they would want to delay the verdict on the appeal, and let Renault race in Valencia, THEN give them the punishment after Valencia... i think that sounds the best

[Hexagram]

Just make them score no constructor points for the rest of year?

That is a far more serious punishment dude!

[headless]

Just make them score no constructor points for the rest of year?

That is a far more serious punishment dude!

Bit far?
Suspenders sound good.
I mean suspended penalty, sounds good.

[racechick]

Just make them score no constructor points for the rest of year?

That is a far more serious punishment dude!

Bit far?
Suspenders sound good.
I mean suspended penalty, sounds good.

I like the suspenders!! They can race but the whole team have to be wearing stockings and suspenders Mosely would give that the go ahead!!!

[EwanM]

I think I should be given a job with Renault.

[headless]

Just make them score no constructor points for the rest of year?

That is a far more serious punishment dude!

Bit far?
Suspenders sound good.
I mean suspended penalty, sounds good.

I like the suspenders!! They can race but the whole team have to be wearing stockings and suspenders Mosely would give that the go ahead!!!

Mosely would be in that garage all weekend

[supeindesu]

Just make them score no constructor points for the rest of year?

That is a far more serious punishment dude!

Bit far?
Suspenders sound good.
I mean suspended penalty, sounds good.

I like the suspenders!! They can race but the whole team have to be wearing stockings and suspenders Mosely would give that the go ahead!!!

Mosely would be in that garage all weekend

With a whip...

[racechick]

Just make them score no constructor points for the rest of year?

That is a far more serious punishment dude!

Bit far?
Suspenders sound good.
I mean suspended penalty, sounds good.

I like the suspenders!! They can race but the whole team have to be wearing stockings and suspenders Mosely would give that the go ahead!!!

Mosely would be in that garage all weekend

With a whip...

Of course!!

[yamashek]

i knew i was making a bold statement...

but maybe a suspended penalty might be good...

or like i mentioned, a delayed appeal hearing...which allows renault to race in valencia, then decide if they should be banned from one race...

suspending renault from valencia is quite tough...with spanish crowds and nano

[headless]

i knew i was making a bold statement...

but maybe a suspended penalty might be good...

or like i mentioned, a delayed appeal hearing...which allows renault to race in valencia, then decide if they should be banned from one race...

suspending renault from valencia is quite tough...with spanish crowds and nano

Yeah but if they were allowed to race in that, it would again look like they were being inconsistent with penaltys and some would claim Renault have a better chance of scoring there etc.

[madbrad]

So this leaves Alonso free to take Massa's drive, at least until Renault is allowed back on the track.

[bernification]

How about just fining them, and adding 5 seconds to each pit stop, enforced by fia officials, on the floor.

Just my 2 ha'pence worth. Enough to stop people duck around again.

[al4x]

Just make them score no constructor points for the rest of year?

That is a far more serious punishment dude!

Bit far?
Suspenders sound good.
I mean suspended penalty, sounds good.

I like the suspenders!! They can race but the whole team have to be wearing stockings and suspenders Mosely would give that the go ahead!!!

sorry, bitcarried away,


just dont let them score points this gp valencia is gonna be empty of supporters