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bud wrote:Everyone is sad about this, but In my opinion based on a pure gut feeling, Massa will be back racing perhaps for the Brazilian GP!!Yeah, wouldn't surprise me.
Leo-The_Red wrote:It would suprise me if he ever setps in a Formula One car again. He is very lucky to still be alive and I just don't think he will be in a car again. Doctors have already said he is ruled out of the season.signs are he will make a 100% recovery so i dont see why he wouldnt come back. I have had a friend who races MotoX who has had to relearn to walk again and go back to racing! reason being... he loves it and is a racer, Felipe is a racer too!
bud wrote:Agreed - just take a look at Herbert and Zanardi - severe accidents left Johnny with fused ankles and still has grass coming to the surface of his skin even today, and the other had both legs amputated - both successfully returned to motorsport.Leo-The_Red wrote:It would suprise me if he ever setps in a Formula One car again. He is very lucky to still be alive and I just don't think he will be in a car again. Doctors have already said he is ruled out of the season.signs are he will make a 100% recovery so i dont see why he wouldnt come back. I have had a friend who races MotoX who has had to relearn to walk again and go back to racing! reason being... he loves it and is a racer, Felipe is a racer too!
Dr Iain Corness wrote:http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_ ... t_id=38582" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As the world has been made very aware, Felipe Massa suffered a head injury during Qualifying at the Hungaroring on Saturday. The injury came from what we call "blunt trauma" to the left side of his forehead, just above his eye.
As I write this, the doctors in Hungary are being cautiously optimistic as regards the contusion to the brain, but are also saying that it is too early to tell the degree of possible damage to his left eye.
I am not a Neurosurgeon, nor am I an Ophthalmologist, but I was a Medical Assessor for the Confederation of Australian Motor Sports (CAMS) for 25 years, and from that point of view, the main problem for Massa in returning to F1, as I see it, is going to be a vision situation.
Blunt trauma to the forehead, enough to fracture the skull and produce brain concussion will most likely have fractured the orbit, in which the eye sits, with the optic nerve going through the rear of the orbit to the brain proper. The orbit is like an eggshell and is made up of seven facial bones, with the frontal bone, being the top of the orbit margin, and trauma transmitted to it may produce other orbit fractures. The fractured bone(s) and swelling after trauma can damage the optic nerve and alter the position of the globe of the eye within the cup-like orbit, or trap the muscles which move the eye in various directions. (Sorry to be a little technical here, but it is necessary that you understand the anatomy.)
Forgetting the brain concussion for now (from which he most likely will recover, though in a best-case scenario that will be measured in months, not weeks), damage to the orbit/optic nerve will be at least a few months before the swelling settles, even if the anatomy is not disturbed and damage to the optic nerve is bruising only. The likelihood of greater damage is high.
The principal morbidity associated with orbital fractures is eye injury. Associated injuries include corneal abrasion, lens dislocation, iris disruption, choroid tear, scleral tear, ciliary body tear or bruise, retinal detachment and tear, hyphema, ocular muscle entrapment, and globe rupture.
Any of the conditions listed above can cause vision problems, and an F1 competitor needs two good eyes which work together. Consequently, I would not expect Felipe Massa to be back in the cockpit this year, and indeed I would go so far as to suggest this may be the end of his racing career. I hope not, but it would not surprise.
bud wrote:then theres thisThis says it all really - I fail to see how any Doctor worth his salt would dare diagnose a condition without knowing anything about Massa's condition.Dr Iain Corness wrote:I am not a Neurosurgeon, nor am I an Ophthalmologist
Stephen wrote:yeah they say assumptions are the mother of all duck ups for a reason!bud wrote:then theres thisThis says it all really - I fail to see how any Doctor worth his salt would dare diagnose a condition without knowing anything about Massa's condition.Dr Iain Corness wrote:I am not a Neurosurgeon, nor am I an Ophthalmologist
I urge you all to just wait and see, and ignore all this bullpoo speculation, generated by washed up journalists and half-assed doctors. We all care about Massa, and our thoughts should be with him and his family during this challenging time - there's no point wondering 'what-if' right now - I'd imagine not even Massa knows the extent of his injuries just yet.
Stephen wrote:Yeh all he's doing there really is scare mongering.bud wrote:then theres thisThis says it all really - I fail to see how any Doctor worth his salt would dare diagnose a condition without knowing anything about Massa's condition.Dr Iain Corness wrote:I am not a Neurosurgeon, nor am I an Ophthalmologist
I urge you all to just wait and see, and ignore all this bullpoo speculation, generated by washed up journalists and half-assed doctors. We all care about Massa, and our thoughts should be with him and his family during this challenging time - there's no point wondering 'what-if' right now - I'd imagine not even Massa knows the extent of his injuries just yet.
Doctors say that Massa has now opened his left eye and initial indications are that there is no damagegood news
Longbow wrote:From Autosport Twitter:Superb, let's hope for continued good news!Doctors say that Massa has now opened his left eye and initial indications are that there is no damagegood news
Felipe has opened his left eye and he can see," Altmann told ANSA. "There's no apparent damage. The eye is morphologically healthy."
Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali visited Massa in hospital on Tuesday and was upbeat about how the driver was.
"He has recognised me and told me he can't remember anything," he said. "Felipe is making encouraging progress so we look forward to his return soon. The future? We'll try to understand how he reacts, then we'll take our decisions."
Stephen wrote:I never said he wouldn't make a full recovery but I just doubt he will step in an F1 car again, he is lucky to be alive and I just don't think he will fully recover mentaly enough to step in an F1 car. I am sure he will return to a form of racing I just doubt it will be F1. But I would love it if he could prove me wrong
Try and search out the exact words coming out of the medical team and Ferrari - the rest of the press seems to be on another planet right now. Sure, Massa's accident was horrendous and he underwent a life saving operation - but saying he'll make a full recovery doesn't sell papers - and this is the problem.
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