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#136656
Given that they knew and let him continue and did so against a background of two very serious incidents involving debris striking drivers in open single seater racing cars in the last week, I would say that the penalty is understandable. The stewards could not be seen to take a lenient line on such a rule breach at this time.
#136658
Given that they knew and let him continue and did so against a background of two very serious incidents involving debris striking drivers in open single seater racing cars in the last week, I would say that the penalty is understandable. The stewards could not be seen to take a lenient line on such a rule breach at this time.


Constructors points ban.

why punish the drivers?
#136662
I dont get why they are separating Fernando from the team though in the penalty decision. Fernando is an intelligent driver he would have been aware of what the problem was. he could have used his own initiative and decide to park it... like i was yelling at the TV for him to do "park it, park it you idiot" :hehe:
#136665
I dont get why they are separating Fernando from the team though in the penalty decision. Fernando is an intelligent driver he would have been aware of what the problem was. he could have used his own initiative and decide to park it... like i was yelling at the TV for him to do "park it, park it you idiot" :hehe:


i gotta admit i was wonderin y he was still going
#136667
I think Alonso was under the impression he had a puncture or something along those lines. After the tyre flew off, there was no point in stopping, so taking the car back to the pits was hardly a big deal.
#136674
I'm pretty sure Alonso didn't know what was going on, but if the team released him from the pits when they knew the wheel was loose that is shocking!



Shocking and stupid, they would surely know the wheel would come off. Why would they release him?
#136688
From F1 Live:

Renault appeals stewards' decision

By Jonathan Noble Sunday, July 26th 2009, 17:03 GMT

Renault has confirmed that it will appeal the FIA's decision to ban the team from the European Grand Prix for the events that led to a wheel coming off Fernando Alonso's car in Hungary.

The team lodged its paperwork and a deposit for the 6000 Euros fee for the appeal, with a hearing now likely take place in the summer break before the European GP on August 23.

The paperwork, lodged in conjunction with the French motorsport federation, was signed by Renault's team manager Steve Nielsen and was received by the FIA's stewards' chairman Alan Donnelly shortly before 7pm.
#136690
I'm pretty sure Alonso didn't know what was going on, but if the team released him from the pits when they knew the wheel was loose that is shocking!



Shocking and stupid, they would surely know the wheel would come off. Why would they release him?


If they had known, they wouldn't have. I'm pretty sure it would have been revealed almost instantly, but by this point Alonso was out of his box so there would be nothing they could do.
#136692
I'm pretty sure Alonso didn't know what was going on, but if the team released him from the pits when they knew the wheel was loose that is shocking!



Shocking and stupid, they would surely know the wheel would come off. Why would they release him?


If they had known, they wouldn't have. I'm pretty sure it would have been revealed almost instantly, but by this point Alonso was out of his box so there would be nothing they could do.



Which goes against the first point in the stewards reasonings

1: The competitor knowingly released Alonso without one of the retaining devices for the wheel-nuts being securely in position, this being an indication that the wheel itself may not have been properly secured.
#136695
Then, why they don't punished Brawn?. This is just ridiculous.


According to autosport, the FIA says that Renault knew the wheel wasn't properly attached when they released Alonso from the pit. If this is true, then it's a very different situation from Brawn losing part of the suspension, as presumably Brawn would not have known there was a danger. But if Renault knowingly released a dangerous car onto the track, that definitely deserves a serious penalty.
#136696
Then, why they don't punished Brawn?. This is just ridiculous.


According to autosport, the FIA says that Renault knew the wheel wasn't properly attached when they released Alonso from the pit. If this is true, then it's a very different situation from Brawn losing part of the suspension, as presumably Brawn would not have known there was a danger. But if Renault knowingly released a dangerous car onto the track, that definitely deserves a serious penalty.


Indeed. However I must ask, who would release a car knowing that the wheel wasn't securely attached? Even from a selfish point of view, concerning race results rather than safety, nobody would be silly enough to do that.
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