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Yes Ferrari have had veto of any reg changes since 1998 :yikes: This means the FIA were contracually bound to have every F1 technical regulation approved by Ferrari!! Laughable isnt it! Especially in the light of what Ferrari and the FIA have done to other teams.

This may not be news to you but it was to me and it's quite a biggy I think!
Answers a few questons about why certain FIA decisions have gone certain ways. The rules have been bent alarmngly in Ferrari's direction , not only by bribery with money, but also by them being a party to regulation changes. All that time they have had so much advantage over their competitors. No wonder F1 is in a mess with governing like this, makes me think a breakaway certainly could do no worse. Well now Ferrari are angry because the FIA have broken their contract and are pushing through regs that Ferrari have not approved. Furthermore Ferrari no longer consider themselves contracted to the FIA until 2012 since the FIA have broken contract.
What a messy situation. And now Ferrari who have been sh**ing on the other teams for years need them to stand solid with them. And the teams have to try to do that to get rid of the bigger evils who allwed the situation to happen in the first place. Max and Bernie.

It all kind of makes fools of us fans too, who hought we were getting, if not a level playing field, at least only a slightly tilted one.


Yes I read this today on F1-live.com. It appears to be true but I wasn't made aware of this until now. So 11 years later this comes out as I doubt anyone else knew. Oh well I don't really care. Was something in Ferrari's favour so couldn't be a bad thing. :D
#120243
Fact is Ferrari have enjoyed a power no other team has while their current stance is about equality. That is laughable


Well Ferrari has the right to have more power than others. In F1 Ferrari is the god. Weather you like it or not, that is how it is. Mosley on the other hand is a traitor and must be taught a harsh lesson for his betrayal. He survived a vote of no confidence undoubtably because of Ferrari's support to him. Now he wants to turn against Ferrari. If it were up to me, silencing Mosley wouldn't be a problem.
#120246
Fact is Ferrari have enjoyed a power no other team has while their current stance is about equality. That is laughable


Well Ferrari has the right to have more power than others. In F1 Ferrari is the god. Weather you like it or not, that is how it is. Mosley on the other hand is a traitor and must be taught a harsh lesson for his betrayal. He survived a vote of no confidence undoubtably because of Ferrari's support to him. Now he wants to turn against Ferrari. If it were up to me, silencing Mosley wouldn't be a problem.


No, its a sport it should be equal. :)

But go ahead and silence Mosley. :D
#120247
Fact is Ferrari have enjoyed a power no other team has while their current stance is about equality. That is laughable


Well Ferrari has the right to have more power than others. In F1 Ferrari is the god. Weather you like it or not, that is how it is. Mosley on the other hand is a traitor and must be taught a harsh lesson for his betrayal. He survived a vote of no confidence undoubtably because of Ferrari's support to him. Now he wants to turn against Ferrari. If it were up to me, silencing Mosley wouldn't be a problem.


No, its a sport it should be equal. :)

But go ahead and silence Mosley. :D


Well at least you and I can agree on something for once. We both hate Max Mosley. :clap:
#120249
Fact is Ferrari have enjoyed a power no other team has while their current stance is about equality. That is laughable


Well Ferrari has the right to have more power than others. In F1 Ferrari is the god. Weather you like it or not, that is how it is. Mosley on the other hand is a traitor and must be taught a harsh lesson for his betrayal. He survived a vote of no confidence undoubtably because of Ferrari's support to him. Now he wants to turn against Ferrari. If it were up to me, silencing Mosley wouldn't be a problem.


No, its a sport it should be equal. :)

But go ahead and silence Mosley. :D


Well at least you and I can agree on something for once. We both hate Max Mosley. :clap:

8-)
#120256
One would think that if Ferrari had used their veto rights in the past ( as some think, to screw over the other teams), they would be expert in how to use them properly. Instead, they have to go to court and be told by a judge that the proper time to have used them was when the rules changes were proposed. My guess is that they never used it once.
#120261
One would think that if Ferrari had used their veto rights in the past ( as some think, to screw over the other teams), they would be expert in how to use them properly. Instead, they have to go to court and be told by a judge that the proper time to have used them was when the rules changes were proposed. My guess is that they never used it once.

I dont think they have either but being an 'outsider' my opinion holds no water. I love Ferrari yet I have certain concerns regarding their 'veto rights'.
#120278
I love Ferrari yet I have certain concerns regarding their 'veto rights'.

That's a prudent concern. But as things stand now, nobody would be willing to grant FOTA veto rights over any rule changes. However, If Ferrari only uses their veto under the direction of the majority of FOTA members, then I say that would be a good thing. The teams would then have a means balancing the power structure in the sport. Maybe I'm being naive, but I think the veto could be a good thing...
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