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#119464
easy to figure out, anything he said IF about :wink:

I read the post twice... there are no if's :)

You know what? I wouldn't be so upset if Ferrari did get a win this weekend. In fact after Red Bull, I want a ferrari to win, because it would be a sweet In-Your-Face to Max Mosely. :D


Christian Horner has said that Monaco should be 'Brawn territory'. He says tracks with a high speed corner suit Red Bull better...
:confused: is he playing games?? because from what i have seen so far its not really like that.

As of KERS, who knows, maybe KERS will be the deciding factor at Monaco... perhaps teams with it will be the only ones able to make a pass.
#119479
its dealing with what ifs do you not know English? or just being a smart arse for the fun of it?

Don't know english :wink::D

Regardless, the IF is not very important because he won the race anyway; and had good pace. So taking away all IF's he won the race; whoever could have won (Massa) had things not happened the way they did, would require IF's as well. So there you go.....
#119483
its dealing with what ifs do you not know English? or just being a smart arse for the fun of it?

Don't know english :wink::D

Regardless, the IF is not very important because he won the race anyway; and had good pace. So taking away all IF's he won the race; whoever could have won (Massa) had things not happened the way they did, would require IF's as well. So there you go.....


well we were discussing the pace of Renault compared to Ferrari and i was saying Renault improved but not ahead of Ferrari or McLaren. not who should have won the race.
#119512
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090518152124.shtml

Red Bull have the diffuser ready :D The fight is on, can Red Bull take a big another step forward to haul in Brawn GP and their massive points lead.

I don't think it will make that much of a difference... It will make a difference but not one that would cause a jump infront of the Brawn's.

This was said by Newey:- (He's said this before and after the development of the DDD)

Q. With the new diffuser in the car, do you need to change the rear suspension in your car from pull rod to push rod?

AN: Well if we do, then we won't have a double diffuser this year because that would take us a year to do. We can put a double diffuser on, although arguably it won't perhaps be quite as effective as it would be had we designed the gearbox around it, but that is where we are.
#119539
easy to figure out, anything he said IF about :wink:

I read the post twice... there are no if's :)

You know what? I wouldn't be so upset if Ferrari did get a win this weekend. In fact after Red Bull, I want a ferrari to win, because it would be a sweet In-Your-Face to Max Mosely. :D


Christian Horner has said that Monaco should be 'Brawn territory'. He says tracks with a high speed corner suit Red Bull better...
:confused: is he playing games?? because from what i have seen so far its not really like that.

As of KERS, who knows, maybe KERS will be the deciding factor at Monaco... perhaps teams with it will be the only ones able to make a pass.


Nope. The Brawn will suit Monaco because it's the best stop and go car. The Red Bull gains speed in the fast turns. Horner isn't playing games here. If you look at the sector times for Barcelona. Sector 3 is the stop and go sector quite similar to Monaco's whole layout. Brawn were the fastest car through that sector.

All the same, the driver can make all the difference around Monaco. So who knows.

Also, there will be no wide tyre variation this weekend. So we're using the super soft and the soft. I was thinking some cars might go 3 stopping, but it doesn't seem as likely. But surely, qualifying will be a battle of who dares put the lightest fuel load on those cars. So maybe we'll still some 3 stoppers.
#119550
i dunno The RB5 seems to have better mech grip as demonstrated by their pace in the wet. Mech grip is more important than aero grip around Monaco.


Catalunya S3 times from Q

Sector #3
Pos No Driver Time
1 22 Jenson Button 27.461
2 14 Mark Webber 27.462
3 23 Rubens Barrichello 27.482
4 1 Lewis Hamilton 27.500
5 16 Nico Rosberg 27.507
6 3 Felipe Massa 27.516
7 15 Sebastian Vettel 27.583
8 17 Kazuki Nakajima 27.622
9 10 Timo Glock 27.630
10 7 Fernando Alonso 27.714
11 5 Robert Kubica 27.720
12 8 Nelsinho Piquet 27.733
13 9 Jarno Trulli 27.771
14 6 Nick Heidfeld 27.813
15 4 Kimi Räikkönen 27.988
16 12 Sebastien Buemi 27.989
17 2 Heikki Kovalainen 28.067
18 11 Sebastien Bourdais 28.111
19 20 Adrian Sutil 28.242
20 21 Giancarlo Fisichella 28.348
#119566
i dunno The RB5 seems to have better mech grip as demonstrated by their pace in the wet. Mech grip is more important than aero grip around Monaco.


Yes, but there's more to it than that. Downforce is extremely important when braking and getting traction. Shorter wheelbase cars also gain an advantage.

Also, I wouldn't say fast car in the wet = fast car in Monaco. For example, last year the McLaren and the Red Bull were easily the best cars in the wet conditions. But in Monaco McLaren weren't as fast as Ferrari in the dry. Red Bull weren't spectacular either.
#119575
Mech grip has always been more important than aero at Monaco, simple reason being the cars don't go fast enough for the aero dynamics to function like they were designed to! Remember this is the slowest track of the year!
#119578
Mech grip has always been more important than aero at Monaco, simple reason being the cars don't go fast enough for the aero dynamics to function like they were designed to! Remember this is the slowest track of the year!


Exactly so hommies for the win Webber
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