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[Jensonb]

No, think your being a little paranoid.

Go back and read it. It was racechick's idea. I agreed with her. He Bolded the part where I said "I'd sign off on that" and then responded "but then it wouldn't work".

[bud]

No, think your being a little paranoid.

Go back and read it. It was racechick's idea. I agreed with her. He Bolded the part where I said "I'd sign off on that" and then responded "but then it wouldn't work".

you sound like a school kid.

[texasmr2]

I get shivers when I talk about 'break away's

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[bud]

I get shivers when I talk about 'break away's

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hello stubby how did that happen again Tex?

[texasmr2]

A motorcycle accident.

[Gaz]

No, think your being a little paranoid.

Go back and read it. It was racechick's idea. I agreed with her. He Bolded the part where I said "I'd sign off on that" and then responded "but then it wouldn't work".

you sound like a school kid.

He is a school kid.

[racechick]

I posted this on the wrong thread , think it goes better here:-



Ive changed my mind about this. I thought my prefered option would be to continue as is but without Max. I now prefer the idea of a breakaway. If things remain as they are, F1 will stiil be creamed by CSC(whateverthey're called), the ones who own it. If a new series is set up all the income will be able to go back in to F1 and the teams get far more of it, tracks wont be ripped off and nor will the fans. They wont need such a stringent budget cap if they get the money F1 earns!

Aparantly FOTA are doing a feasability study looking particularly at venues.
TV wouldnt be a problem, put the new series on ITV a the same time BBC run F1 with a handfull of teams. Next year switch to BBC.

[Jensonb]

Please no. Breakaway Series have never worked. Let us focus on fixing the F1 we have. Don't make me use a Batman metaphor.

[Gilles 27]

Please no. Breakaway Series have never worked. Let us focus on fixing the F1 we have. Don't make me use a Batman metaphor.

Oh go on

[Jensonb]

Please no. Breakaway Series have never worked. Let us focus on fixing the F1 we have. Don't make me use a Batman metaphor.

Oh go on

Ahem...

Because F1 2009's the sport the teams, administrators and fans deserve, but not the one we need right now…and so we attack it, because it can take it. Because it's not perfect. It's a stop-gap solution, a mess of our own creation…a sport in need of fixing, not replacing.

[Gilles 27]

nice

[bud]

I posted this on the wrong thread , think it goes better here:-



Ive changed my mind about this. I thought my prefered option would be to continue as is but without Max. I now prefer the idea of a breakaway. If things remain as they are, F1 will stiil be creamed by CSC(whateverthey're called), the ones who own it. If a new series is set up all the income will be able to go back in to F1 and the teams get far more of it, tracks wont be ripped off and nor will the fans. They wont need such a stringent budget cap if they get the money F1 earns!

Aparantly FOTA are doing a feasability study looking particularly at venues.
TV wouldnt be a problem, put the new series on ITV a the same time BBC run F1 with a handfull of teams. Next year switch to BBC.

It makes sense doesnt it

[f1usa]

I posted this on the wrong thread , think it goes better here:-



Ive changed my mind about this. I thought my prefered option would be to continue as is but without Max. I now prefer the idea of a breakaway. If things remain as they are, F1 will stiil be creamed by CSC(whateverthey're called), the ones who own it. If a new series is set up all the income will be able to go back in to F1 and the teams get far more of it, tracks wont be ripped off and nor will the fans. They wont need such a stringent budget cap if they get the money F1 earns!

Aparantly FOTA are doing a feasability study looking particularly at venues.
TV wouldnt be a problem, put the new series on ITV a the same time BBC run F1 with a handfull of teams. Next year switch to BBC.

It makes sense doesnt it

In North America, I would hope SPEED TV (Fox Network) gains broadcast rights, as their F1 coverage is excellent but a few too many commercials. I wouldn't mind seeing twice as many commercials to get away from the "Four Wheel Wrestling Match" that Max and Bernie have reduced Formula 1 to.

[Jensonb]

...One of the options for the manufacturers is to start their own series and, as it happens, they commissioned a detailed study into the feasibility of this when they were formed into the Grand Prix Manufacturers Association a few years ago. But that was at the height of the economic cycle, when car sales and media rights were at a peak.

Now the landscape is very different.

It is a huge undertaking to start a new series and there couldn’t be a worse time to do it, with the car industry in a once in a generation global crisis. The manufacturers involved in F1 all have far bigger problems to deal with than investing heavily to start their own series. This is the calculation Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone are making.

They could join forces with an existing series, but in either case one of the hardest parts would be getting a really good television package together, because without that there would be no sponsors and no wider media interest. The deals for F1 are signed up well in advance and with many of the world’s leading broadcasters, like the BBC. A split, whereby Ferrari and other manufacturers race in one series and Brawn, Force India, Williams and others are in Formula 1 would not work for either series.

F1 would be a pale shadow of its former self and the new series, despite Ferrari’s presence, would be quite a tough sell in the current TV market. They would probably be able to get some prominent space with terrestrial broadcasters if they offered the coverage for free, or subsidised it but it would be extremely hard to sell rights to a new series for the many millions F1 commands.

Something similar happened in America with the Indycar series in the mid 1990s when Indianapolis boss Tony George split with the CART teams, so what had been Indycar was forced to rename itself Champ Car and lost its most famous race, the Indianapolis 500. TV deals were divided and it was a disaster for both sides, one they have yet to recover from.

I don’t think it will come to this, but there is no doubt that were are passing through a very painful moment for the sport.

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[Gaz]

JA brings up some good points but i belive the succsess or failure of a breakaway would depend on what they left behind at F1.

For example if Ferrari and Toyota just breakaway the rest of the big names, Mclaren Williams etc.. etc.. staying then would be tougher for them to get started.

However i think FOTA is united enough that all the teams would proberly go meaning F1 might only be left with new signups (lola, USGPE etc.) and if they played it right even they could come along.

I mean if F1 has no teams then the breakaway would have no real compition.