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[aboldero]

start from 6th for no reason?

fisichella was dropped 5 places for blocking yamamoto from completing his fast lap at full speed... yamamoto was last on the grid and would not have improved even if fisichella hadn't held him up.

alonso deliberately waited and extra 10 seconds with the team waving at him and telling him on the radio to move his bottom.. in doing so he deliberately stopped hamilton, at that time on pole, and alonso's only competitor for pole, from completing his fast lap.

so you are telling me that a MISJUDGEMENT by fisichella, on track, is punishable, but a DELIBERATE ACT by alonso in the pit lane, is not?

[alonso_campeon]

I agree with u completly, this kind of things go against the show and againt the sport...

[alonso_campeon]

Aboldero Keep saying he deserves taht, keep saying that, there were no reasons, he just did what the team asked him to do, so... You dont talk about Hamilton didnt let him go first when they have a statement inside the team where every race is one them running first... Hamilton is breaking the rules and he will pay for that, thats sure...

[internos2k]

start from 6th for no reason?

fisichella was dropped 5 places for blocking yamamoto from completing his fast lap at full speed... yamamoto was last on the grid and would not have improved even if fisichella hadn't held him up.

alonso deliberately waited and extra 10 seconds with the team waving at him and telling him on the radio to move his bottom.. in doing so he deliberately stopped hamilton, at that time on pole, and alonso's only competitor for pole, from completing his fast lap.

so you are telling me that a MISJUDGEMENT by fisichella, on track, is punishable, but a DELIBERATE ACT by alonso in the pit lane, is not?

1st: the're wrong by judging fisichella too, because he braked to avoid the car in font of him, the other only chance was to crash. 2nd: The 3 people who acted as steward, generally works in motorsport like karting, gt and others MINOR categories...they have not enough knowledge to decide what's right and what's wrong in F1: much much better let these decisions to people who previously acted as driver, but not to this kind of people. 3. McLaren and FA have been punished for Political reason, only half an hour before the end of judgement the decision was to NOT punish FA neither McLaren. 4.) If FIA begins to punish the teams for their tactical decision in qualifying too, is better to begin to watch other sports, because it means the END of the formula 1 because means the end of the INTERNAL freedom for the teams. To prevent team orders there is an article; can you show me which article of the sporting code breached McLaren and FA in the PITS, please?

[ArtHowe]

Hopefully Alonso will go back to Renault, then we can get on with motor racing rather than enduring all this crap.

[internos2k]

Hopefully Alonso will go back to Renault, then we can get on with motor racing rather than enduring all this crap.

[aboldero]

internos2k:

I agree McLaren should NOT have been punished, their tactics and timing were perfect, IF alonso had left the pit when he was told to, then both cars would have got one more lap in and their would not have been a problem. the face is that alonso was told by the team to leave, and he waited 10 seconds (hamilton missed getting one more lap by 7!!!)

[alonso_campeon]

Everything about political items, but why is always against the same drivers???

[internos2k]

Ok. I'm not saying Alonso's behaviour hass been the best, he answered to a "mistake" with another one, but: if someone steals something to you, what do you do? I, usually, try to take it back. Maybe there is something wrong in the driver's behaviour, but there is nothing wrong in the man's behaviour. Anyway, who could decide (as punishment) about it, was RD, not the FIA!

[aboldero]

it was an fia issue, as effectively, once the team had told alonso to go, he was deliberately blocking LH, just as other drivers got penalised for doing on track.

if the stewards had found, as FA cliamed, that his engineer was telling him to wait, then there would have been no punishment for FA, however, the punishment proves that he is a liar as well as a bad sportsman.

[internos2k]

An example: some years ago, it happend to Ferrari, during the race, to have in the pits, at the same time, MS an RB. Whi didn't FIA acted in those circumstancies as acted on saturday?

[alonso_campeon]

Internos I agree with u. Some many times Alonso didnt have the best of the best behaviour, cause he is the kind of person who says what he thinks, i mean, he is not gonna keep quite.

Its strange he didnt say anything about wahts going on yet... I road he thought about a press conference, but he decided not to do it, because for once the team was suporting him...

Maybe he should separate what he thinks as a person and as a driver, but thats very difficult. Imagine when u do a great job and someone comes and get ur position just because he is an spoiled guy, u have to fight for what is your and thats what Fernando was doing... Even is still time to put everyone on his place, but not at the offices, no, he wont do that, he will win where he always ein, in the motorway...

[alonso_campeon]

Im gonna tell u why, cause Fernando Alonso was not involved.

They dont know how to stop him on the motorway, so thei invent new rules to penalise him... Im wondering which one will be the next???

[aboldero]

when it happened at ferrari, it was due to a cockup, the team acted as quickly as possible and the instant the lollipop was raised the driver pulled out (barrichello if i remember) and then the other driver got into the pit.

the difference is that when the stop was complete, lollipop raised and the driver told to leave, he refused to do so.

the team told FA when he was coming into the pit that he would be held for 20 seconds, this is what the team did, but he stayed stationary for another 10, despite verbal and visual orders from the team to move his bottom out of there.

[alonso_campeon]

Y dale!!!

Have u hear Mc Laren opinion about that? They said that Alonso was doing what they asked him to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!