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[Gaz]

No doubt someone at this point will be wanting to say, ah but that is different, is it really, skin colour, hair colour, which hand you use to write is a genetic card we get dealt. so why is some cards looked on as worse than others!

History.

I don't buy that history bullpoo. Discrimination of all kinds is equally wrong.

Of course discrimination of all kinds is wrong, but racism is a case apart. It's not in the same league as somebody making a joke about somebody's ginger hair.

Correct..

Wrong.

You can't compare being name called because you have say Ginger hair the same as being made to stand on a bus or move off the pavment beacuse of your skin colour.

[Jensonb]

No doubt someone at this point will be wanting to say, ah but that is different, is it really, skin colour, hair colour, which hand you use to write is a genetic card we get dealt. so why is some cards looked on as worse than others!

History.

I don't buy that history bullpoo. Discrimination of all kinds is equally wrong.

Of course discrimination of all kinds is wrong, but racism is a case apart. It's not in the same league as somebody making a joke about somebody's ginger hair.

Correct..

Wrong.

You can't compare being name called because you have say Ginger hair the same as being made to stand on a bus or move off the pavment beacuse of your skin colour.

I don't believe that's what I said or implied. Stop putting words in my mouth.

Namecalling someone for being ginger is as bad as namecalling them for being black. Forcing them to move of the pavement because they are black is as bad as doing it because they are ginger. The issue does not matter, all discrimination is equally hateful.

[Gaz]

No doubt someone at this point will be wanting to say, ah but that is different, is it really, skin colour, hair colour, which hand you use to write is a genetic card we get dealt. so why is some cards looked on as worse than others!

History.

I don't buy that history bullpoo. Discrimination of all kinds is equally wrong.

Of course discrimination of all kinds is wrong, but racism is a case apart. It's not in the same league as somebody making a joke about somebody's ginger hair.

Correct..

Wrong.

You can't compare being name called because you have say Ginger hair the same as being made to stand on a bus or move off the pavment beacuse of your skin colour.

I don't believe that's what I said or implied. Stop putting words in my mouth.

Namecalling someone for being ginger is as bad as namecalling them for being black. Forcing them to move of the pavement because they are black is as bad as doing it because they are ginger. The issue does not matter, all discrimination is equally hateful.

I'm not sure although they are both unplesent in the eye's of the law racism is worse for one.

[Ineluke]

No doubt someone at this point will be wanting to say, ah but that is different, is it really, skin colour, hair colour, which hand you use to write is a genetic card we get dealt. so why is some cards looked on as worse than others!

History.

I don't buy that history bullpoo. Discrimination of all kinds is equally wrong.

Of course discrimination of all kinds is wrong, but racism is a case apart. It's not in the same league as somebody making a joke about somebody's ginger hair.

Correct..

Wrong.

You can't compare being name called because you have say Ginger hair the same as being made to stand on a bus or move off the pavment beacuse of your skin colour.

I don't believe that's what I said or implied. Stop putting words in my mouth.

Namecalling someone for being ginger is as bad as namecalling them for being black. Forcing them to move of the pavement because they are black is as bad as doing it because they are ginger. The issue does not matter, all discrimination is equally hateful.

Yes but again you are showing your uneducated side.
Can you link me or show me any time in history when a ginger person has been made to sit at the back of the bus or ginger haired people have been murdered,raped,branded castrated ,sold ,kidnapped,breed like cattle ,because they are gingered haired?

You can't can you,so stop trying to compared the two or use that as an analogy because you are just making yourself out to be a ignorant undercover racist.

[darwin dali]

Okay guys, this thread is sufficiently off topic to be shoved to the Anything Else forum

[darwin dali]

And please gurrlz, refrain from accusing each other of things you don't really know about each other...

[Denthúl]

Again you assume without knowing what you are talking about. Did you read the part of my post where i said that slavery has been around for an eternity. Do you really think that i don't no that many Africans and Arabs had slaves just like many Romans had slaves and many other cultures. In your quests to prove me wrong you are assuming things that you think i don't know.

Show me where in any of my post that i said the British,Portuguese or Spanish started the slave trade,you can't can you.People like you are great entertainment though because you make things up that slimly were not said just to win the argument.

About the TRANS ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE.. Yes people were being shipped around and being sold to WHITE slaver or business men throughout the new world and London. White slaver actually paid some black African groups to kidnap other groups from the interior because they were two scared to go deeper into Africa,especially around Guinea. The British bought a whole new meaning to slavery by turning it into a multi million pound industry over a period of 400 years. Without the British involvement and the other European country the Trans Atlantic slave trade would not of gone on so long and would not have given these country's,including America the great wealth they had.

Next time before you assume that i don't no these things,ask me and i will gladly educate you.

Again show me where i stated that these country started slavery.

"Oh an educated black man" that's not good is it...

This is great isn't it.

You're still not reading it properly, though. I did not say that you had said they started the slave trade, but what you did say is that they started it being a skin thing. Your exact words:

It was the Spanish/Portuguese and the Britons that turned it into a skin thing

This is the whole point that I'm disputing. You're willing to come in and blame them for the origins of the trading of black slaves, but that wasn't the case at all. The Arabs had, for centuries before that, been trading black slaves with each other.

On to this point in particular:

Show me where in any of my post that i said the British,Portuguese or Spanish started the slave trade,you can't can you.People like you are great entertainment though because you make things up that slimly were not said just to win the argument.

Where exactly did I make anything up? If you read my post, you'll find that I only made my points based on things that you actually wrote...

[Jensonb]

Yes but again you are showing your uneducated side

For all you know, I could kick your bottom right around the schoolyard when it comes to knowledge and smarts. This has nothing to do with education. You keep mis-representing my position. My point is and always has been that all discrimination is hateful and regardless of the issue being discriminated against. History does not change that. Just because something has happened over one issue and not another does not mean that the first issue is worse.

The fact is, this guy was an asshole. Plain and simple. If I'd have been there, I'd have socked him in his stupid face and so would a lot of us. It doesn't mean F1 has a race problem, and it doesn't mean Spain should be kicked off the calendar.

[texasmr2]

Next time read the whole thread instead of jumping in without actually doing so.

I'll add that you Ineluke need to stop with your naming calling and direspectful comments towards other members. If you cannot offer an objective and mature reply just dont reply, you have hit a nerve with me with your name calling and frankly I do not tolerate that kinda stuff, hope you get my drift .

tex