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#109482
Can Red Bull Racing back up their performance? Can Brawn GP continue their form? Can Ferrari score a point? We'll find out this coming weekend.

Pre Round 4 Race Driver Standings:
1. Jenson Button (Brawn GP) (21)
2. Rubens Barrichello (Brawn GP) (15) (+6)
3. Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull Racing) (10) (+11)
4. Timo Glock (Toyota Racing) (10) (+11)
5. Mark Webber (Red Bull Racing) (9.5) (+11.5)
6. Jarno Turlli (Toyota Racing) (8.5) (+12.5)
7. Nick Hiedfeld (BMW Sauber) (4) (+17)
8. Fernado Alonso (Renault) (4) (+17)
9. Heikki Kovalainen (Vodafone McLaren Mercedes) (4) (+17)
10. Lewis Hamilton (Vodafone McLaren Mercedes) (4) (+17)
11. Nico Rosberg (Williams F1) (3.5) (+17.5)
12. Sebastian Buemi (Scuderia Torro Rosso) (3) (+18)
13. Sebastian Bourdais (Scuderia Torro Rosso) (1) (+20)
14. Adrian Sutil (Force India) (0) (+21)
15. Felipe Massa (Scuderia Ferrari) (0) (+21)
16. Kimi Räikkönen (Scuderia Ferrari) (0) (+21)
17. Giancarlo Fisichella (Force India) (0) (+21)
18. Kazuki Nakajima (Williams F1) (0) (+21)
19. Robert Kubica (BMW Sauber) (0) (+21)
20. Nelson Piquet, Jr. (Renault) (0) (+21)

Pre Round 4 Contructors Standings:
1. Brawn GP (Mercedes) (36)
2. Red Bull Racing (Renault) (19.5) (+16.5)
3. Toyota Racing (Toyota) (18.5) (+15.5)
4. Vodafone McLaren Mercedes (Mercesdes) (8) (+24)
5. Scuderia Torro Rosso (Ferrari) (4) (+32)
6. Renault (Renault) (4) (+32)
7. BMW Sauber (BMW) (4) (+32)
8. Williams F1 (Toyota) (3.5) (+32.5)
9. Force India (Mercedes) (0) (+36)
10. Scuderia Ferrari (Ferrari) (0) (+36)
Last edited by The Oz on 19 Apr 09, 10:33, edited 1 time in total.
#109494
Shanghai results
1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 10
2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 8
3 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 6
4 Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 5
5 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 4
6 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 3
7 Timo Glock Toyota 2
8 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1
9 Fernando Alonso Renault
10 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
12 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber
13 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber
14Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes
15 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota
16 Nelsinho Piquet Renault
17 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes
Ret Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota
Ret Felipe Massa Ferrari
Ret Jarno Trulli Toyota


Current drivers standings
1 Jenson Button British Brawn-Mercedes 21
2 Rubens Barrichello Brazilian Brawn-Mercedes 15
3 Sebastian Vettel German RBR-Renault 10
4 Timo Glock German Toyota 10
5 Mark Webber Australian RBR-Renault 9.5
6 Jarno Trulli Italian Toyota 8.5
7 Nick Heidfeld German BMW Sauber 4
8 Fernando Alonso Spanish Renault 4
9 Heikki Kovalainen Finnish McLaren-Mercedes 4
10 Lewis Hamilton British McLaren-Mercedes 4
11 Nico Rosberg German Williams-Toyota 3.5
12 Sebastien Buemi Swiss STR-Ferrari 3
13 Sebastien Bourdais French STR-Ferrari 1
14 Adrian Sutil German Force India-Mercedes 0
15 Felipe Massa Brazilian Ferrari 0
16 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Ferrari 0
17 Giancarlo Fisichella Italian Force India-Mercedes 0
18 Kazuki Nakajima Japanese Williams-Toyota 0
19 Robert Kubica Polish BMW Sauber 0
20 Nelsinho Piquet Brazilian Renault 0
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#109503
My thoughts about Bahrain are that Toyota could have the upper-hand here. They tested here during winter, so they should have an advantage in terms of setup data. Obviously it will be warmer now than in the winter testing, but I think their general idea about downforce levels and suspension settings might help them get at least one driver on to the front row. Of course, seeing how fast the Red Bulls were here in China makes me think that they could challenge again next week. I'm looking forward to it.
#109506
i feel:

BrawnGP- Podium
RBR Renault- Might just slightly miss the podium (maybe SV with a 3rd)
Mclaren- Big challenger for 3rd or 4th
Toyota- somewhere in the middle
Williams- same middle
STR Ferrari- Hopefully Buemi can continue to finish in the points
Renault- middle of the pack
BMW- middle of the pack, Kubica behind NH struggling with balance
Force India- at the back
Ferrari (big SIGH)- probably struggle with pace. Might just miss out the points (9th+)
#109555
I think the battle here is between Brawn and Toyota, the faster teams under dry conditions so far (Excluding China Qualifying which went pear-shaped for Toyota, though Brawn remained fastest), with Red Bull scrapping in there too. Could wind up as a 4-6 way fight for the win. Button would be the pick of the Brawns, Trulli of the Toyotas and Vettel of the Red Bulls. I could see that winding up as the Podium actually.
#109562
Sounds like McLaren will have some upgrades for Bahrain hopefully that will give them an extra 2 tenths or so. I'm hoping for some nice solid points from both drivers consistency will be key for McLaren this season.
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#109567
Sounds like McLaren with have some upgrades for Bahrain hopefully that will give them an extra 2 tenths or so. I'm hoping for some nice solid points from both drivers consistency will be key for McLaren this season.


Hoping for a podium..
#109568
I hope Williams bring some upgrades to allow Nico to continue scrapping up at the top like he had been in Melbourne and Sepang. It won't improve Nakajima's performance though, and even if it does he'll stick it in the wall.
#109572
I hope Williams bring some upgrades to allow Nico to continue scrapping up at the top like he had been in Melbourne and Sepang. It won't improve Nakajima's performance though, and even if it does he'll stick it in the wall.

I think someone wants Nakajima gone! I think the Williams still has some pace just wasn't a top weekend for them.
#109579
I hope Williams bring some upgrades to allow Nico to continue scrapping up at the top like he had been in Melbourne and Sepang. It won't improve Nakajima's performance though, and even if it does he'll stick it in the wall.

I think someone wants Nakajima gone! I think the Williams still has some pace just wasn't a top weekend for them.

Shanghai is a bogey track for them now, even with the competitiveness of the FW31. People just seem to be brushing off Williams when they talk about Brawn, Toyota and Red Bull at the top and I think it's Nakajima who's ruining the team's credibility with his lacklusture pace and his prone-ness to crashing. Last year I gave him the benefit of doubt because of his inexperience and the awfulness of the FW30 and expected him to do much better this year. But then in Melbourne he missed out on Q3 by a hundredth and just played it down to the field being so tight. But in Malaysia and this weekend in Shanghai he has just gotten worse and was embarrasingly poor in the race. Because of Nakajima Williams have effectively only got one driver (just like Renault).
#109602
I think the battle here is between Brawn and Toyota, the faster teams under dry conditions so far (Excluding China Qualifying which went pear-shaped for Toyota, though Brawn remained fastest), with Red Bull scrapping in there too. Could wind up as a 4-6 way fight for the win. Button would be the pick of the Brawns, Trulli of the Toyotas and Vettel of the Red Bulls. I could see that winding up as the Podium actually.


let's not forget redbull qualified 1st and 3rd on a relatively dry day. so what's up with people saying the redbulls are only fast in the wet?

they're equally fast in the dry as well. and that's without a double deck diffuser and kers.
#109609
I think the battle here is between Brawn and Toyota, the faster teams under dry conditions so far (Excluding China Qualifying which went pear-shaped for Toyota, though Brawn remained fastest), with Red Bull scrapping in there too. Could wind up as a 4-6 way fight for the win. Button would be the pick of the Brawns, Trulli of the Toyotas and Vettel of the Red Bulls. I could see that winding up as the Podium actually.


let's not forget redbull qualified 1st and 3rd on a relatively dry day. so what's up with people saying the redbulls are only fast in the wet?

they're equally fast in the dry as well. and that's without a double deck diffuser and kers.


You have to look at just how much lighter they were, though. Had Brawn taken three laps of fuel out of each car, they probably would've been up front.
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