Mclaren to be kicked out

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101268

By Frosty - 03 Apr 09, 11:05

- 03 Apr 09, 11:05#101268

irons_4_ever wrote:the express is a good news paper

No offence but that might be your problem! McLaren or Lewis will not be kicked out if they are then I’m pretty sure F1 will go down the **** and the FIA will have doomed the whole sport! They may get a huge fine and a million gird penalties though.

Remember "competitive animals know no limits"

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101269

By EwanM - 03 Apr 09, 11:07

- 03 Apr 09, 11:07#101269

They're not going to get kicked out - they are too big a draw.

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Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101270

By irons_4_ever - 03 Apr 09, 11:09

- 03 Apr 09, 11:09#101270

mclaren has gone from hero to zero in one race

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101271

By Frosty - 03 Apr 09, 11:15

- 03 Apr 09, 11:15#101271

irons_4_ever wrote:mclaren has gone from hero to zero in one race

I'm sure McLaren fans are used to it by now!

Remember "competitive animals know no limits"

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101272

By Denthúl - 03 Apr 09, 11:16

- 03 Apr 09, 11:16#101272

Frosty wrote:
irons_4_ever wrote:mclaren has gone from hero to zero in one race
I'm sure McLaren fans are used to it by now!

The circumstances are, of course, very different on this occasion. :/

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101273

By FerrariFan63 - 03 Apr 09, 11:19

- 03 Apr 09, 11:19#101273

They could allow McLaren to continue racing, but say that they will not receive any points this year. So they still get exposure keeping the team (and F1) alive, but are out of the championships.

But they might leave HK in the championship. Now, that would create an interesting situation inside McLaren, would it not?

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101274

By Selcouth_Feline - 03 Apr 09, 11:25

- 03 Apr 09, 11:25#101274

EwmanM wrote:
McLaren Fan wrote:The Daily Mail is reactionary, fascist garbage. I wouldn't even wipe my arse with it. Why can't Allen tell us what real papers are saying?
Maybe the real papers aren't really covering it. I'll do my own scope.

I *love* the Daily Wail. It's fabulous. Every day they have at last one story proclaiming how the End is Nigh. It's not exactly know for it's unbiased, quality journalism though

I really can't see McLaren being kicked out. It would be a total farce if they were. Mind you, stranger things have happened in F1

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101275

By Denthúl - 03 Apr 09, 11:26

- 03 Apr 09, 11:26#101275

FerrariFan63 wrote:They could allow McLaren to continue racing, but say that they will not receive any points this year. So they still get exposure keeping the team (and F1) alive, but are out of the championships.

But they might leave HK in the championship. Now, that would create an interesting situation inside McLaren, would it not?

It would create an interesting situation, indeed. Though Kovalainen has seemed to be able to get to grips with the car better than Lewis over testing and practice so far, so that situation could arise either way.

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101276

By bud - 03 Apr 09, 11:32

- 03 Apr 09, 11:32#101276

FerrariFan63 wrote:They could allow McLaren to continue racing, but say that they will not receive any points this year. So they still get exposure keeping the team (and F1) alive, but are out of the championships.

thats still taking things too far!

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101282

By FerrariFan63 - 03 Apr 09, 11:59

- 03 Apr 09, 11:59#101282

bud wrote:
FerrariFan63 wrote:They could allow McLaren to continue racing, but say that they will not receive any points this year. So they still get exposure keeping the team (and F1) alive, but are out of the championships.
thats still taking things too far!

It's a lesser punishment (and more realistic) than kicking them out.

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101285

By bud - 03 Apr 09, 12:04

- 03 Apr 09, 12:04#101285

FerrariFan63 wrote:
bud wrote:
FerrariFan63 wrote:They could allow McLaren to continue racing, but say that they will not receive any points this year. So they still get exposure keeping the team (and F1) alive, but are out of the championships.
thats still taking things too far!
It's a lesser punishment (and more realistic) than kicking them out.

Lewis has already been punished!

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101295

By FerrariFan63 - 03 Apr 09, 12:32

- 03 Apr 09, 12:32#101295

bud wrote: Lewis has already been punished!

The question that seems to be being asked is whether that punishment is sufficient.

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101296

By EwanM - 03 Apr 09, 12:34

- 03 Apr 09, 12:34#101296

FerrariFan63 wrote:
bud wrote: Lewis has already been punished!
The question that seems to be being asked is whether that punishment is sufficient.

I think so.

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Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101297

By bud - 03 Apr 09, 12:35

- 03 Apr 09, 12:35#101297

FerrariFan63 wrote:
bud wrote: Lewis has already been punished!
The question that seems to be being asked is whether that punishment is sufficient.

losing 6 points and a damaged rep isnt enough though? do people want blood or something?
if this didnt involve McLaren say it was Ferrari would there be talk of them being kicked out of the championship? NOT A CHANCE

Re: Mclaren to be kicked out#101298

By FerrariFan63 - 03 Apr 09, 12:38

- 03 Apr 09, 12:38#101298

EwmanM wrote: I think so.

I would expect a bit more punishment if the cheating is as blatant as it has been described. To have a proper deterrent to cheating, the penalty has to be considerably larger than the potential gain. And I think the loss of points from the race in question is insufficient. A couple of races as happened to Honda a few years ago might be fair.

But the FIA wouldn't, I think, ban McLaren for a few races. They'd do some fudge like not award them points for those races, but leave them racing, which would have cars competing or not competing in the championship in the same race. Can of worms.

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