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By Jack Master
#228122
There is a very different perception of what really happened in 2007 depending on if you are an Alonso’s fan or a McLaren, Hamilton one. I think there were a lot of misunderstandings from both sides that ruined the season to the whole team when they had the best car and all the options to win the two titles. Any side has the biased version given from the journalists that supported one or the other part.
I believe it would be very interesting to debate, three years later, about what really happened that season and how the people involved behaved to produce that situation.
#228135
I think that Mclaren did not favour any driver.

Alonso pitched up a 2 times world champion confronted by a rookie driver. Alonso thought that it would be a building year for the rookie and that he would demoralise him like he had done to Fisi before Lewis got up to speed.

When it turned out that Lewis was quick out of the box and Mclaren would not sway the way that Renault had around him Alonso could not cope.
By Jack Master
#228140
What is your opinion Jack Master?


I think both sides were wrong. I guess they felt very happy when they signed a three years contract, I suppose that even fans from both sides felt happy.
One of the things Fernando said after beginning to work at McLaren was that the Ron Dennis with he had signed the contract and the one he found at McLaren were two different people.
Possibly Dennis just expected another fast driver like Raikkonen or Montoya, but Fernando is a very different kind of driver than they were. He gets much more involved in the set up and development of the car than the others.
May be, the first mistake was they didn’t know the other well enough.
By Jack Master
#228145
I think that Mclaren did not favour any driver.

Alonso pitched up a 2 times world champion confronted by a rookie driver. Alonso thought that it would be a building year for the rookie and that he would demoralise him like he had done to Fisi before Lewis got up to speed.

When it turned out that Lewis was quick out of the box and Mclaren would not sway the way that Renault had around him Alonso could not cope.


Did you know that Fernando’s wife and friends had to go to Renault boxes to follow the races because they couldn’t cope with the high-sounding support the whole team and their guests gave to Lewis when he was confronting Fernando?
Who really was the rookie at McLaren? Lewis had grown under the Uncle Ron’s umbrella. He knew McLaren like the back of his hand, every person and everything, the new car development. He was the British and McLaren golden boy.
I suppose at the beginning McLaren gave the same car to both of them. That’s all.
He was very fast and he still is, but he was a rookie in Formula 1 and he displayed it on his entire splendor losing the WDC because he couldn’t cope with pressure at the last races, something he still hasn’t improved.
#228146
I think that Mclaren did not favour any driver.

Alonso pitched up a 2 times world champion confronted by a rookie driver. Alonso thought that it would be a building year for the rookie and that he would demoralise him like he had done to Fisi before Lewis got up to speed.

When it turned out that Lewis was quick out of the box and Mclaren would not sway the way that Renault had around him Alonso could not cope.


I think you have it exactly Right!

You know Alonso even advised Ron against taking on a Rookie as he said it would make it too difficult to win the Constructors.
#228147
Fernando,Mclaren,Ron,The Whole WORLD was :yikes::yikes::yikes: with Lewis' performance! This was no ordinary rookie and fought all year,resulting in Alonso :banghead::banghead: with everybody else. Fair is fair but Fernando can not have the team focus on 2 drivers as he wants #1 status and tries to :whip: his teammates! it didnt work on Lewis,it's working fine on Massa!
At least he didnt have to disrupt the team just because he CANT have it! Imagine if Webber did the same this year!
#228152
I think that Mclaren did not favour any driver.


I think you have it exactly Right!


I just can't agree on this point. And it's proved by Ron Dennis' own words: "We weren’t racing Kimi, we were basically racing Fernando.” This put's pay to any thought that, for at least the last two races, Fernando was alone racing Lewis with the complete backing of the whole McLaren team.

I know people justify this by saying Fernando was already known to be leaving the team, and I won't comment the morals of that, but, no-one could possibly claim that, at a bare minimum, for the last two races of the season, McLaren completely favored Lewis.
By Jack Master
#228154
Fernando,Mclaren,Ron,The Whole WORLD was :yikes::yikes::yikes: with Lewis' performance! This was no ordinary rookie and fought all year,resulting in Alonso :banghead::banghead: with everybody else. Fair is fair but Fernando can not have the team focus on 2 drivers as he wants #1 status and tries to :whip: his teammates! it didnt work on Lewis,it's working fine on Massa!
At least he didnt have to disrupt the team just because he CANT have it! Imagine if Webber did the same this year!


Tell me. How McLaren, Ron and the whole world (especially Ferrari) felt when Lewis lost the WDC having an advantage of 17 points and two races left. I suppose that was Fernando’s fault as well.
The team was focus in two drivers until Monaco 07, when Lewis went to Uncle Ron and the whole British press, saying that he wanted to win at Monaco but he couldn`t because the team had favored Fernando. McLaren didn’t deny immediately Lewis statement and Fernando felt betrayed for his team. Since this very moment, McLaren focus on one driver, Lewis.
Don’t you remember Ron saying “we’re driving against Alonso”? Do you?
#228157
He was very fast and he still is, but he was a rookie in Formula 1 and he displayed it on his entire splendor losing the WDC because he couldn’t cope with pressure at the last races, something he still hasn’t improved.


You don't have to be a rookie to lose a WDC the last race of a season. Two time world champions do that even though they've had tons of time to improve.
#228158
He was very fast and he still is, but he was a rookie in Formula 1 and he displayed it on his entire splendor losing the WDC because he couldn’t cope with pressure at the last races, something he still hasn’t improved.


You don't have to be a rookie to lose a WDC the last race of a season. Two time world champions do that even though they've had tons of time to improve.

:clap::yes::rofl::rofl:
#228160
I think that Mclaren did not favour any driver.


I think you have it exactly Right!


I just can't agree on this point. And it's proved by Ron Dennis' own words: "We weren’t racing Kimi, we were basically racing Fernando.” This put's pay to any thought that, for at least the last two races, Fernando was alone racing Lewis with the complete backing of the whole McLaren team.

I know people justify this by saying Fernando was already known to be leaving the team, and I won't comment the morals of that, but, no-one could possibly claim that, at a bare minimum, for the last two races of the season, McLaren completely favored Lewis.


Remember they had a fair play tsar at Brazil that did not find any favouritism. (imagine if Ferrari had one of them at Germany :rolleyes: )The last two races or so Ron might have had in his mind a fave but that doesnt meant Alonso had any less chance of winning.

And Jack Master has to be a Spaniard, the fact that nation still goes on about the 07 season and their dislike of Lewis shows how deep the hatred is. :wink:
By Jack Master
#228161
He was very fast and he still is, but he was a rookie in Formula 1 and he displayed it on his entire splendor losing the WDC because he couldn’t cope with pressure at the last races, something he still hasn’t improved.


You don't have to be a rookie to lose a WDC the last race of a season. Two time world champions do that even though they've had tons of time to improve.


Please, don’t be unfair. Lewis headed the championship for 17 points with 20 points left and he scored 0 points because he couldn’t cope with pressure.
The 2010 last five races have shown what a kind of a champion Alonso is. He didn’t win the WDC for anybody’s fault but him.
If you don’t see that is because you didn’t want to do it.
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