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#216696
Bernie is like a pitpull with a leg on this issue, let it go Bernie, nobody likes the idea; isn't it retirement time yet?

Bernie Ecclestone has been urged to abandon his fresh push to introduce a 'winner-takes-all' system in Formula 1, with leading figures adamant the move would be wrong for the sport.

Grand Prix racing's commercial supremo said in Singapore on Thursday that he believed the new-for-2010 points system had not worked - as it had failed to make the season any more exciting than it would have been under the old points structure.

Ecclestone reckons the situation would wake up the sport to the need to adopt his preferred medal system - whereby the world championship would be handed to the driver who takes the most wins over the season.

But Ecclestone's idea has not won support among the men involved in the current championship fight – which has already been billed in some quarters as one of the most exciting ever.

Former world champion Lewis Hamilton said: "I get on really well with Bernie, but I disagree with him personally. Everyone has got their own personal views, but I don't agree with the golden medal idea.

"At the end of the day we are pushing as hard as we can already to win the races. It doesn't matter if you give us a gold medal or you give us a trophy. We want to win more than anything. So even if you gave us a gold medal we would still be doing exactly what we are doing right now. It would not make any difference whatsoever.

"As far as having the most race wins winning the world championship – I don't think that is a true reflection of someone's performance. For example, if Red Bull had not failed their car so many times this year, they would have won the championship ages ago and we might as well have gone home.

"They had qualified on pole for 11 races and it would have been a blow over, and it wouldn't have been fun. And I don't think the fans would have enjoyed it. I am pretty sure that the majority of the fans will agree with what I am saying."

Red Bull Racing team principal Christian Horner, whose team has won six of the 14 races held so far this season, said: "The only thing I will say is that the points sometimes are deceptive with the gaps that are there – and as we have seen those points reduce very, very quickly.

"I don't think the points have contributed – because had it been under the old or current system then the same five drivers would be pretty much in the same position.

"There are merits to rewarding more to a winner, in the scenario we have now, but if you have a runaway leader like in the Ferrari days then there is a disadvantage. But, at the end of the day, it is the same for everybody, whether it is medals or points whatever they are."

World champion Jenson Button also reckons that the introduction of a medal system would have big implications for smaller teams on the grid.

When asked about Ecclestone's belief that the points system had not worked, Button joked: "Oh yeah, I don't think it's been an exciting season at all!

"Seriously, I think for the first three people it is exciting in the championship – when you are right at the front it could be really exciting. Last year I would have loved that and could have sat out the last few races and gone on a big holiday for three months, but this year it has been so close it has been a fantastic season. The points system has worked.

"The problem is also for the smaller teams. If it is a medal system then there have probably been four or five teams this year that would have got a medal, and that is really tough for a lot of teams on the grid.

"At the moment there are three teams at the back and they are a little bit away from getting points. It is still difficult, but to get that point is so exciting for them.

"If it becomes only for the top three, then they know they are never going to score a medal in a season, so it is difficult. For the smaller teams and teams not right at the front it is not as exciting, as there is less to go for."

SRC: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86892
#216697
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! what we have is good. Leave it alone. :banghead::banghead::banghead:
#216705
With the medals system; we'll have five teams in 2011; Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull, Renault and Mercedes as those are the only teams that have scored podiums! Why does Bernie persist with pushing the medals system when clearly no one likes it and the new points system has been universally acclaimed!
#216733
Has Bernies insistence on this got anything to do with how FOM money is distributed between the teams? I can't help feeling that there's something more to this than only a shake up of the scoring system.
#216741
Has Bernies insistence on this got anything to do with how FOM money is distributed between the teams? I can't help feeling that there's something more to this than only a shake up of the scoring system.

Very likely; if there are only three "scorers" per race then the amount of cash being paid out to teams for points scored will be cut significantly, which is massively unfair on the independents like Sauber, Williams and the three new teams! From the teams perspective there isn't too much incentive to go racing!
#216742
Has Bernies insistence on this got anything to do with how FOM money is distributed between the teams? I can't help feeling that there's something more to this than only a shake up of the scoring system.

Very likely; if there are only three "scorers" per race then the amount of cash being paid out to teams for points scored will be cut significantly, which is massively unfair on the independents like Sauber, Williams and the three new teams! From the teams perspective there isn't too much incentive to go racing!

hmm.. I thought this system awarded medals for the first 3 drivers but also normal points for the rest?
#216760
Has anyone anywhere (people in the paddock, us fans, etc etc) actually agreed with Bernie on this one yet? I can't say i've seen anyone do so, which says it all really. :-|
#216773
Bernie, trophies are bigger and shinier and more prestigious than medals.

Although if he proposed it as an FIA cost cutting method because medals are cheaper, I'd totally support that. :rolleyes:
#216779
Bernie says and does stuff like this when he has some other agenda. He's lots of things, but he's not stupid and he knows how to grow the business, I think fans up over 20% in Europe this year alone.
He's probably trying to keep people from looking at the buyout/restructure of "Bernie Inc".
#216819
Bernie doesn't like it that we have a pretty good structure right now and wants to throw a nice shiny spanner in the works again....

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