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[What's Burning?]

Here's a recipe for disaster... the FIA apparently loves ambiguously defined rules. Over on GPUpdate.

Drivers competing in the FIA Formula One World Championship could have their super licences temporarily or indefinitely withdrawn if they are involved in a serious road traffic offence, the World Motor Sport Council has said following its meeting in Paris today.

The whole matter of driver conduct has come under the microscope this year following Lewis Hamilton’s antics as he left the Albert Park circuit in Australia (see separate story - Hamilton fined for Melbourne burnout).

In a statement published on the official FIA website, the WMSC emphasised that any drivers' competing in FIA events must be aware their ‘conduct on the road must be exemplary'.

The WMSC also added that a proposal has been submitted so that any holder of a super licence must also have a current road driving licence. This latter point is controversial as the age at which a driving licence can be obtained varies internationally.

“The FIA, both in its motor sport and mobility roles, has a strong interest in promoting road safety. Competitors at FIA events must act as ambassadors for the sport, be aware their conduct on the road must be exemplary and respect road safety rules,” read the statement from the FIA under the heading ‘Driving Conduct’.

“A proposal to amend the international sporting code will be submitted to the FIA General Assembly to clarify that any holder of an International Super Licence must also be in possession of a current road driving licence.

“Additionally, the Code will be amended to clarify that if an International Super Licence holder is involved in a serious road traffic offence recognised by a national police authority, the FIA, depending on the severity of the case, may issue a warning or refer the matter to the International Disciplinary Tribunal, which may temporarily or indefinitely withdraw the competitor’s International Super Licence.”

[vaptin]

Sigh, just focusing and have faith in your own rules, don't piggy back of others.

[Hammer278]

Wow! Can we finally say "Man it SUCKS to be an F1 driver!"?

[racechick]

Thats right. Let high profile race teams flagrantly break existing rules and get away with it but if you speed, take a red light or light up your tyres in your own time off the race track then you could be finnished as a driver. Are these people real???

[myownalias]

Thats right. Let high profile race teams flagrantly break existing rules and get away with it but if you speed, take a red light or light up your tyres in your own time off the race track then you could be finnished as a driver. Are these people real???

Only in a parallel dimension where common sense does not exist!

[Jabberwocky]

“Additionally, the Code will be amended to clarify that if an International Super Licence holder is involved in a serious road traffic offence recognised by a national police authority, the FIA, depending on the severity of the case, may issue a warning or refer the matter to the International Disciplinary Tribunal, which may temporarily or indefinitely withdraw the competitor’s International Super Licence.”

isn't it against human right to be "punished" for the same crime twice?

[What's Burning?]

“Additionally, the Code will be amended to clarify that if an International Super Licence holder is involved in a serious road traffic offence recognised by a national police authority, the FIA, depending on the severity of the case, may issue a warning or refer the matter to the International Disciplinary Tribunal, which may temporarily or indefinitely withdraw the competitor’s International Super Licence.”

isn't it against human right to be "punished" for the same crime twice?

Still vague enough so that if it happens to a Ferrari driver, Ferrari threaten to pull out of the sport and the FIA will re-evaluate the need for the rule.

[vaptin]

“Additionally, the Code will be amended to clarify that if an International Super Licence holder is involved in a serious road traffic offence recognised by a national police authority, the FIA, depending on the severity of the case, may issue a warning or refer the matter to the International Disciplinary Tribunal, which may temporarily or indefinitely withdraw the competitor’s International Super Licence.”

isn't it against human right to be "punished" for the same crime twice?

Can't be can it? Or at least there must be exceptions, if you commit a crime and lose your job, haven't you been punished twice. Or have you at all, its not a separate conviction and punishment, its part of the same offence.
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As for Ferrari, its all to do with actually being able to prove it. Most real legal systems are better designed and thought through than reactionary FIA rules.

[The_Stig_Money]

Ha, another rule is made because of Lewis Hamiltons actions!

[Jensonb]

What was that about the FiA not liking qualitative rules made for reactionary reasons? Oh that's right, it only matters if it upsets Ferrari.

[Big Azza]

I actually think this is a good move. Drivers are meant to be role models and set a good example. Although the FIA would need to introduce a means to appeal.

[Peng]

I actually think this is a good move. Drivers are meant to be role models and set a good example. Although the FIA would need to introduce a means to appeal.

You could say the same about any celebrity yet they don't get banned from thier job/the sport for the stupid crap most celebrities do.

In fact most of the time it helps promote them as any press is good press.

I don't mind the rule as long as getting a permanent ban has the same requirements a road driving license requires, if they start handing out long bans for stupid things like burnouts they may aswell just stop F1 altogether.

[NocturnalTendencies]

There must be a few Bilderbergs in the FIA these days.

They'll have a field day if a driver pulls a DC going nearly three times faster than the prearranged speed limit at this gig in India last year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1acw5cZjPA

[racechick]

Ha, another rule is made because of Lewis Hamiltons actions!

What a ridiculous statement.

Are you telling me Lewis hamilton is the only driver to commit a road traffic violation? Take a look at this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... r-van.html

The point is has nothing to do with the FIA, its dealt with elsewhere.
And the 'bringing the sport into disrepute' arguement is a no goer

Reputable actions
Paying for umpalumpa with prostetutes and being whipped whilst dressed in a Nazzi uniform and talking with a German accent

Cheating by breaking the team rules regulation (article whatever)and then lying about it.

Disreputable actions
overstaying your parking ticket
parking illegally(not on the racetrack, outside the local papershop)
speeding
screeching wheels(in some countries)
Goodness knows what (in some countries)
Missing a traffic light (on the road not on the track)
Driving without a headlight

Senna(A), Villeneuve (G), Hunt, to name but a few would be turning in their graves at this latest ridiculous FIA action.
Well if it was all down to Lewis he's in good company.
But who wants characters like the aforementioned when we can have company clones instead.

[bud]

wonder if parking tickets count?