Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?

Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?#210050

By smokin - 01 Aug 10, 22:59

- 01 Aug 10, 22:59#210050

Apart from the start and back-markers, have either Webber or Vettel overtaken anyone this year? The Red Bull is untouchable in qualifying and romps away in clear air but I can't recall any significant Red Bull overtaking manoeuvre during a race which doesn't end in tears. Someone will correct me, I'm sure, but I'm starting to think that the design features which make the Bulls so quick actually hamper overtaking.

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Re: Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?#210052

By ivey - 01 Aug 10, 23:03

- 01 Aug 10, 23:03#210052

Watched highlights of Britain's GP and Vettel did a lot of overtaking, he also had a big battle with Lewis in China, when it was raining. It was pretty close for most of the time as they passed a lot of cars together but in the end Lewis won this battle after safety car went back to pits.

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Re: Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?#210053

By What's Burning? - 01 Aug 10, 23:05

- 01 Aug 10, 23:05#210053

yes.

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Re: Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?#210055

By racechick - 01 Aug 10, 23:05

- 01 Aug 10, 23:05#210055

Apart from the start and back-markers, have either Webber or Vettel overtaken anyone this year? The Red Bull is untouchable in qualifying and romps away in clear air but I can't recall any significant Red Bull overtaking manoeuvre during a race which doesn't end in tears. Someone will correct me, I'm sure, but I'm starting to think that the design features which make the Bulls so quick actually hamper overtaking.

Or the guys just cant do it? just another avenue to explore.....

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Re: Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?#210057

By smokin - 01 Aug 10, 23:08

- 01 Aug 10, 23:08#210057

Watched highlights of Britain's GP and Vettel did a lot of overtaking, he also had a big battle with Lewis in China, when it was raining. It was pretty close for most of the time as they passed a lot of cars together but in the end Lewis won this battle after safety car went back to pits.

Ah. Didn't see the British GP. I was listening to it on the radio in a taxi.

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Re: Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?#210058

By smokin - 01 Aug 10, 23:08

- 01 Aug 10, 23:08#210058

yes.

Who?

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Re: Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?#210059

By scotty - 01 Aug 10, 23:10

- 01 Aug 10, 23:10#210059

They have when they have needed to at times and we have seen that at China and Silverstone for example. There's no one to overtake when you qualify at the front!

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Re: Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?#210060

By racechick - 01 Aug 10, 23:11

- 01 Aug 10, 23:11#210060

Watched highlights of Britain's GP and Vettel did a lot of overtaking, he also had a big battle with Lewis in China, when it was raining. It was pretty close for most of the time as they passed a lot of cars together but in the end Lewis won this battle after safety car went back to pits.

Ah. Didn't see the British GP. I was listening to it on the radio in a taxi.

But he was coming from the back then after stopping for a puncture. And only then could he do it after a safety car bunched them up. And to where? ...8th???

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Re: Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?#210062

By scotty - 01 Aug 10, 23:13

- 01 Aug 10, 23:13#210062

Watched highlights of Britain's GP and Vettel did a lot of overtaking, he also had a big battle with Lewis in China, when it was raining. It was pretty close for most of the time as they passed a lot of cars together but in the end Lewis won this battle after safety car went back to pits.

Ah. Didn't see the British GP. I was listening to it on the radio in a taxi.

But he was coming from the back then after stopping for a puncture. And only then could he do it after a safety car bunched them up. And to where? ...8th???

It's the same for all the drivers though, once they get up to similarly quick cars overtaking becomes a lot harder. In the dry anyway. Malaysia was a pretty good example of that happening.

Rising number one of Formula 1, Juan - Juan, one wonders should Juan only win one Formula 1 one year, would Juan have won that one in round one, Juan??

Re: Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?#210064

By racechick - 01 Aug 10, 23:17

- 01 Aug 10, 23:17#210064

Watched highlights of Britain's GP and Vettel did a lot of overtaking, he also had a big battle with Lewis in China, when it was raining. It was pretty close for most of the time as they passed a lot of cars together but in the end Lewis won this battle after safety car went back to pits.

Ah. Didn't see the British GP. I was listening to it on the radio in a taxi.

But he was coming from the back then after stopping for a puncture. And only then could he do it after a safety car bunched them up. And to where? ...8th???

It's the same for all the drivers though, once they get up to similarly quick cars overtaking becomes a lot harder. In the dry anyway. Malaysia was a pretty good example of that happening.

Overtaking at the moment is a big problem, doesnt make for good racing!

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
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Re: Have the Bulls overtaken anyone this year?#210065

By Rooney01 - 01 Aug 10, 23:18

- 01 Aug 10, 23:18#210065

I think vettel is a brillaint driver, extremely quick and i quite like him but i often wonder does he have the ability to really overtake any of the top drivers.