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[Juliet P]

O nly Renault left of the manufacturers
F inding a seat for Kobayashi
F IA has a new leader

S peculation about drivers
E arly testing
A rguing about lists - best drivers of all time, best drivers of the year
S aving Silverstone!
O ther sports (cricket, anyone?)
N ew teams - will USF1 make it?

Ok, ok, I'm bored!

[Jensonb]

Didn't Toyota leave in the off season?



Good poem though

[vaptin]

Bmw left as well?

[nish2280]

What he means is that Renault are the only manufacturer left (its not true though because ferrari are still in...)

[Juliet P]

What he means is that Renault are the only manufacturer left (its not true though because ferrari are still in...)

He?!?

That was what I meant. I don't count Ferrari as a 'manufacturer', really. But I suppose Mercedes are a new 'manufacturer'. Pfft, let's chalk it up to poetic licence.

[Jabberwocky]

What he means is that Renault are the only manufacturer left (its not true though because ferrari are still in...)

He?!?

That was what I meant. I don't count Ferrari as a 'manufacturer', really. But I suppose Mercedes are a new 'manufacturer'. Pfft, let's chalk it up to poetic licence.

So is Mclaren now that they have made their own car

[darwin dali]

What he means is that Renault are the only manufacturer left (its not true though because ferrari are still in...)

He?!?

That was what I meant. I don't count Ferrari as a 'manufacturer', really. But I suppose Mercedes are a new 'manufacturer'. Pfft, let's chalk it up to poetic licence.

So is Mclaren now that they have made their own car

Usually though a manufacturer makes their own engines for the F1 car...

[texasmr2]

What he means is that Renault are the only manufacturer left (its not true though because ferrari are still in...)

He?!?

I don't count Ferrari as a 'manufacturer', really.

How's that?

[Hexagram]

Renault are the last of the middle class manufactures, in which I mean they make common affordable cars unlike Mercedes, McLaren & Ferrari.

[texasmr2]

Renault are the last of the middle class manufactures, in which I mean they make common affordable cars unlike Mercedes, McLaren & Ferrari.

You lost me with that one, in what manner is making (common affordable cars) relevant to being a true F1 manufacturer?

[Hexagram]

Renault are the last of the middle class manufactures, in which I mean they make common affordable cars unlike Mercedes, McLaren & Ferrari.

You lost me with that one, in what manner is making (common affordable cars) relevant to being a true F1 manufacturer?

It isn't. I'm just saying out of the manufactures left they are the only one left that make common road cars that are affordable.

Which is maybe why they have been identified as the last manufacturer left of that type in F1.

[al4x]

mercedes is a manufacturer
ferrari is a manufacturer

renault arent really renault anymore, alsmot the same as lotus, they arent really lotus

[Hexagram]

mercedes is a manufacturer
ferrari is a manufacturer

renault arent really renault anymore, alsmot the same as lotus, they arent really lotus

At 25% Renault still own a good bit of the team. Bill Gates was the face for Microsoft for years at only a 10% shareholding. It is Renault expertise building the 2010 challenger. From Renault's announcement it would appear the team personnel is remaining mostly the same too so the car is remaining rightfully Renault branded.

When you boil it down, what really matters is that the car is a Renault and that is what it will be.

[al4x]

mercedes is a manufacturer
ferrari is a manufacturer

renault arent really renault anymore, alsmot the same as lotus, they arent really lotus

At 25% Renault still own a good bit of the team. Bill Gates was the face for Microsoft for years at only a 10% shareholding. It is Renault expertise building the 2010 challenger. From Renault's announcement it would appear the team personnel is remaining mostly the same too so the car is remaining rightfully Renault branded.

When you boil it down, what really matters is that the car is a Renault and that is what it will be.

would you say this is the last year [2010] that it will be a true renault car?

i think the name may change next year..

the same way the brawn was really a honda this year

[texasmr2]

Renault are the last of the middle class manufactures, in which I mean they make common affordable cars unlike Mercedes, McLaren & Ferrari.

You lost me with that one, in what manner is making (common affordable cars) relevant to being a true F1 manufacturer?

It isn't. I'm just saying out of the manufactures left they are the only one left that make common road cars that are affordable.

Which is maybe why they have been identified as the last manufacturer left of that type in F1.

Thing is we are not discussing the relevance of an "affordable car". I'm not happy myself about Renaults departure but I as you most likely still retain hope that in the near future we will see their return as a 90% manufacturer. I cannot give them that last 10% simply because their engine is farmed out, sorry.