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#156254
A lot of people have been complaining that Todt would just be Mosley mark 2, seeming to think that Mosley is appointing Todt as his heir to continue on exactly as Mosley has in the past.

I don't believe this to be the case. I think that Todt, when president, will remake the organisation in his own, very different, image. And that Mosley will not be able to run the show from the sidelines.

Personally I find it highly plausible that Todt will take some early public actions to demonstrate that he is his own man. There will be some public outcry when/if Todt is voted in, as those of the more paranoid ilk will insist that he will be Ferrari's shill in the FIA. Clearly as time goes by, there will be some decisions to make that involve Ferrari, appeals etc. Even if the first ten in a row go against Ferrari, there will be lots of people who would grab onto the eleventh one that goes in Ferrari's favour, no matter how just, and claim it proves pro-Ferrari bias. Whether or not these "people" need to be taken serious note of is another question. A few yahoos on internet forums, probably not. But the press might need to have more heed taken.

There are are few steps that Todt could take early on to demonstrate considerable independence from Mosley. Large, public, steps that he could take would be to invite Ron Dennis back into the sport, saying that his (more or less) banishment was disproportionate to his involvement in scandals. And, perhaps less likely, Flavio Briatore, could be invited back. The latter is less likely as Bernie will still be around, and I believe that it's Flavio's potential challenge to Bernie's interests that is behind Flavio's banishment. But, if he were to reverse one of these "banishments", that would clearly establish him early on as much different from a Mosley yes-man, and also show willing to work with the teams. It would also show that he is not, as the more lunatic fringe suggest, going to be working solely in Ferrari's interest while in charge, but is prepared to act generously to Ferrari's competitors.

Any other ideas as to what Todt could do early on (if elected), to establish himself as "his own man"?
#156257
:yes:

Looking at stewarding and the WMSC, both areas where the FIA are massively inconsistent and often criticised, would be something that would go down well with me. I also like his idea of changing the president's role from how Mosley has it at present, to one where the president acts in the way you would normally expect a president to, and appointing qualified people to oversee each sport. If he goes through with that, hopefully it will prevent the one with all the power, up at the top, from getting too involved with certain things in the way that Mosley has.
#156298
Give Mclaren a grid penalty for out qualifying Ferrari in Bahrain, then Ban them for Overtaking them during the race.

Then Ban Martin Whitmarsh indefinitly for appealing to the ban.

And fine them £100mil.

Then he'd send a signed Photo of him and Max to Ron.
#156303
Give Mclaren a grid penalty for out qualifying Ferrari in Bahrain, then Ban them for Overtaking them during the race.

Then Ban Martin Whitmarsh indefinitly for appealing to the ban.

And fine them £100mil.

Then he'd send a signed Photo of him and Max to Ron.


If this sort of thing doesn't happen, will you admit that you are wrong?
#156304
Give Mclaren a grid penalty for out qualifying Ferrari in Bahrain, then Ban them for Overtaking them during the race.

Then Ban Martin Whitmarsh indefinitly for appealing to the ban.

And fine them £100mil.

Then he'd send a signed Photo of him and Max to Ron.


If this sort of thing doesn't happen, will you admit that you are wrong?


No, he'll claim that Todt is sneakily waiting for an opportunity where he can pass of his McLaren hatred as a legitimate punishment.
#156305
Give Mclaren a grid penalty for out qualifying Ferrari in Bahrain, then Ban them for Overtaking them during the race.

Then Ban Martin Whitmarsh indefinitly for appealing to the ban.

And fine them £100mil.

Then he'd send a signed Photo of him and Max to Ron.


If this sort of thing doesn't happen, will you admit that you are wrong?

and if it does will you ?
#156306
No, he'll claim that Todt is sneakily waiting for an opportunity where he can pass of his McLaren hatred as a legitimate punishment.


I agree. Under Todt, we could have ten years without a single judgment going Ferrari's way, then when one does, many people will claim that this "proves" that Todt is actively pro-Ferrari.
#156311
why do you want Todt in this position for anyway? over his career he has shown none of the qualities needed to be a president of the FIA! No actually if its to be like Max he has the exact fit!


In case you hadn't noticed, Todt built Ferrari up into an incredibly successful F1 team. He identified the people he needed, he rebuilt the organisation, and the result was how many championships?

That in my eyes shows that he has the qualities needed to be a president of the FIA. While I believe that Vatanen is also a good candidate, what does he have that Todt doesn't? In terms of real skills and experience, not talking of roles in peoples prejudices and delusions.
#156315
But Todt was also Ruthless and cunning in the way he went about it many a time in a non sporting manner so again i ask is this what you want in a president? and you point out his many a years service to Ferrari something again i cannot see him forgetting too soon.

I think its his Ferrari links that you like to be honest.
#156316
There are good and bad points of both becoming president. However, I seriously doubt that Todt would favour Ferrari (and it wouldn't be his choice to do so anyway with his proposed structure). The one advantage that Todt has is that he actually has a solid plan formed and written down, where as Vatanen appears to have only his notepad so far...
#156341
But Todt was also Ruthless and cunning in the way he went about it many a time in a non sporting manner so again i ask is this what you want in a president? and you point out his many a years service to Ferrari something again i cannot see him forgetting too soon.


So says you. As I mentioned, I'm only interested in discussing what we know about the candidates in the real world, not the prejudices and delusions of individuals.

I think its his Ferrari links that you like to be honest.


If that is the case, why would I say that Vatanen is also a good candidates? What are his links that I might find suitable. And I have said on this forum that Ron Dennis would also be a good candidate. So you can think away, but back in the real world ....
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