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#127409
Hi, new here.

Just wondered if there is anyone out there that thinks what Max is implementing and doing is good for the sport and going to benifit the outcome. Reason i ask is everything i have seen and read so far point to the opposite and havent hear anything or anyone that is really in favor of it. I personnally think he is make a mess of this sport and needs to stop trying to change things every year.

Also very suprised Bernie has been so quite through out all of this, maybe he's secretly hoping they will split so he can just sue everyone for millions then just retire, has he had enough????
#127413
the fact he wont listen to the teams when the supposed changes are for the good of the teams is pretty arrogant of him! and more to do with having power over them more than whats good for them. its pathetic!
#127417
All this cost cutting is supposed to be to secure the manufacturers so they wont leave except he's just alienated the majority of them by not working with them to find a solution. He seems to be on a power trip and doesnt want to back down, how to wreck a sport in one easy move. I for one wont be watching F1 if the current teams are not running, dont want to see a load of unknown teams and drivers racing each other.
#127422
All this cost cutting is supposed to be to secure the manufacturers so they wont leave except he's just alienated the majority of them by not working with them to find a solution. He seems to be on a power trip and doesnt want to back down, how to wreck a sport in one easy move. I for one wont be watching F1 if the current teams are not running, dont want to see a load of unknown teams and drivers racing each other.


I disagree, the measures he's propsing are to safeguard the sport and make it more appealling to new, smaller teams when the road car manufacturers pull out (which they always do). I agree with what he is trying to do, just not the way the FIA or indeed FOTA are going about it.
#127425
To be honest I think the FIA are right to cap the budgets of the teams.

But a sudden 45mill cap is not the way to go, it is just too small of a cap to build a car and pay your staff. Even if advertisement & driver salaries are excluded from it.
#127426
No-one disagrees with a cap. The disagreement is with Max's dogmatic way of governing. He is not interested in involving the teams and reaching a satisfactory agreement ( which could easily be done). Its all about Max and power.........So No Max has not got right, he's got it badly wrong!
#127429
Hi, new here.

Just wondered if there is anyone out there that thinks what Max is implementing and doing is good for the sport and going to benifit the outcome. Reason i ask is everything i have seen and read so far point to the opposite and havent hear anything or anyone that is really in favor of it. I personnally think he is make a mess of this sport and needs to stop trying to change things every year.

Also very suprised Bernie has been so quite through out all of this, maybe he's secretly hoping they will split so he can just sue everyone for millions then just retire, has he had enough????

Bernie and CVC are trying to stay afloat with a $2.2 billion debt load. New teams in F1 under a budget cap means Bernie can pay them less. FOTA and the European car manufactures need to form a new series, investing money back into series not sending it off-shore to Bernie and CVC. F1 has been like a bad marriage the past several years, and FOTA wants to just get away from Max and Bernie. Has Max got it right, no and in 2010 the fans and sponsors will have their say.
#127449
No :hehe:

When was the last time the FIA did something, and everyone thought. Thats a really great idea.


I cheered when Balestre went. HAd I known how Mosley was going to turn out I might have thought differently.

However it is hard as the government/governing body to please people. Which is why democracies like a change every now & again. Which brings us to Mosely & his attitude to government. Which stinks.
#127457
To be honest I think the FIA are right to cap the budgets of the teams.

But a sudden 45mill cap is not the way to go, it is just too small of a cap to build a car and pay your staff. Even if advertisement & driver salaries are excluded from it.

No-one disagrees with a cap. The disagreement is with Max's dogmatic way of governing. He is not interested in involving the teams and reaching a satisfactory agreement ( which could easily be done). Its all about Max and power.........So No Max has not got right, he's got it badly wrong!

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#127458
Max couldn't get 1+1 right, let alone a budget cap.
#127515
I have only been watching F1 since the last few races of 2K8, so I don't have much experience yet. The one thing I've come to dislike so far is the amount of drama is greater off track than during the races itself. I can understand the need to attract new teams, but pushing the older teams out in doing so isn't the best way to make the sport successful for the future. So IMO, for a newer point of view than most others, no Max isn't doing it right at all.
#127517
I have only been watching F1 since the last few races of 2K8, so I don't have much experience yet. The one thing I've come to dislike so far is the amount of drama is greater off track than during the races itself. I can understand the need to attract new teams, but pushing the older teams out in doing so isn't the best way to make the sport successful for the future. So IMO, for a newer point of view than most others, no Max isn't doing it right at all.

:thumbup::yes:
#127534
No-one disagrees with a cap. The disagreement is with Max's dogmatic way of governing. He is not interested in involving the teams and reaching a satisfactory agreement ( which could easily be done). Its all about Max and power.........So No Max has not got right, he's got it badly wrong!


:yes::yes:

Yup, with the exception of the first word.... No-one. I disagree with a cap whole heartedly. The racing should certainly be made cheaper...but that is by not changing the rules every year, resulting in untold millions in redesign, not introducing expensive and fairly useless tech that the teams need to spend untold millions developing (KERS), not travelling to countries who have NO interest in racing (if the track sits VACANT for every other weekend of the year...I'm sorry, it's not a racing country)....have two or three races a year in countries who WANT TO SEE RACING and stop forcing the teams to spend so much travelling. There are MANY ways to reduce costs....without putting in an artificial cap which the teams are then forced to find a way to cheat on, etc while the FIA has to spend thousands of hours attempting to enforce, prove cheating, etc. It's a bad joke.
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