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[kerc]

...Formula 1 could learn a thing or two from them. Seriously.

I'm not talking spec cars...But man, the racing can get so tight, so close. Lots of speed, barely any BS politics, light, colors, overtaking! Dramatic camera angles, well-prepared videos and segments...They've thoroughly worked it all out and it's working.

Naysayers will diss my thoughts, but I stand by them. NASCAR knows how to run a show and a racing series.

More racing, less politics, please.

[kerc]

I wonder why this was moved...It's about F1, not exactly about NASCAR...Oh, well.

[bud]

i agree with more racing less politics but thats about all.

[Gilles 27]

The races aren't all tight, the field get's spread out just like any other race series. It looks much tighter on the short circuits because there is a higher density of cars on the track. Plus when the field spreads out, they just throw a yellow and the restrictor plate races are basically engineered so that they all stay in a close pack.

I think with NASCAR, it's easy to get a decent amount of enjoyment out of it without having to be a super dedicated fan, whereas with F1, what you get out of it is roughly proportional to what you invest in it in terms of time and effort.

Also, I like F1 politics

[kerc]

There's far too much action off the track, in my opinion. Far too much.

[bud]

oval racing is just extended drag racing. you might not see as many passing moves in F1 but when you do 1 is worth 10 compared to NASCAR. ie the Webber Alonso dual last race.

[kerc]

oval racing is just extended drag racing. you might not see as many passing moves in F1 but when you do 1 is worth 10 compared to NASCAR. ie the Webber Alonso dual last race.

You guys are comparing the racing style 1 to 1. That's not the point. I'm referring to the whole package. The racing action is a part of it, but also everything else surrounding it. The complete event. It feels alive, whereas F1 can be kinda slow and drag on sometimes.

Hey, I love F1, but you can't hide the sun with the palm of your hand...

[bud]

i dunno i watch NASCAR quite alot when its on cable or the HD channel and theres too many yellows that break it up and it feels like i dunno how to explain it but it just doesnt feel right. Also hearing some southern hick trying to talk technical i just cant buy it

[Stealthgate007]

I somewhat agree. Maybe because NASCAR is in my face 24/7. They are at the point where they can follow a team around for a season documentary style and follow the drivers on their day to day, from garage to driver owner meetings to after hours with in depth look at a team, from driver to crew chief. Right now Jimmie Johnson is on Wind Tunnel with Dave Dispane. If any F1 driver could give as much time to these media outlets, we would have a much different opinion of them. That aint gonna happen in F1 although they are trying. NASCAR put on a better fan experience.

[bud]

Maybe that is an American view of things?

[Stealthgate007]

Maybe that is an American view of things?

I think your right. I don't know if this style could translate to Europe...

[Rivelution]

I think F1 should have a pit crew challenge like nascar does...

[kerc]

I somewhat agree. Maybe because NASCAR is in my face 24/7. They are at the point where they can follow a team around for a season documentary style and follow the drivers on their day to day, from garage to driver owner meetings to after hours with in depth look at a team, from driver to crew chief. Right now Jimmie Johnson is on Wind Tunnel with Dave Dispane. If any F1 driver could give as much time to these media outlets, we would have a much different opinion of them. That aint gonna happen in F1 although they are trying. NASCAR put on a better fan experience.

You and me were watching the same show. All that coverage is what sparked my initial post, plus some other shows I've caught on Speed by pure chance. I'm always amazed at how well-produced everything is, and how it is so fan-oriented,

[csrracer]

I somewhat agree. Maybe because NASCAR is in my face 24/7. They are at the point where they can follow a team around for a season documentary style and follow the drivers on their day to day, from garage to driver owner meetings to after hours with in depth look at a team, from driver to crew chief. Right now Jimmie Johnson is on Wind Tunnel with Dave Dispane. If any F1 driver could give as much time to these media outlets, we would have a much different opinion of them. That aint gonna happen in F1 although they are trying. NASCAR put on a better fan experience.

You and me were watching the same show. All that coverage is what sparked my initial post, plus some other shows I've caught on Speed by pure chance. I'm always amazed at how well-produced everything is, and how it is so fan-oriented,

What you're saying is all fine and dandy but it's also the biggest problem with NASCAR it's not really about the racing anymore. Nascar moved away from real racing a long time ago and has become nothing more than entertainment. It's a show not a sport anymore. NASCAR won't let any one team do better than the rest or start lapping the rest of the field because it's not entertaining, But it's also not really racing. Race control in NASCAR uses yellow flags to bunch the field together so the end of the race is more exciting, to me that is the equivalent of giving a soccer team free penalty kicks just so the end of the game is more exciting. I'm sorry but NASCAR constantly has contrived endings to their races, and that's BS. They gave up on trying to regulate different team's being creative with their aerodynamics when they were based on actual(Stock) cars and now they all run the same car bodies but with different headlight and grill stickers.

Furthermore I think since FOX bought Speed Channel and turned it into NASCAR TV it has a lot less interesting shows on.
Speed used to cover more exciting "Real" racing like sports cars,Touring cars, and Rallying (Thank god they're still covering F1) but those shows are few and far between now because Speed's coverage is centered around NASCAR and their "Entertainment Weekly" type shows about NASCAR drivers, their motorhomes, their wives, and their poodles named "fluffy" and "Goodyear" .

[darwin dali]

I somewhat agree. Maybe because NASCAR is in my face 24/7. They are at the point where they can follow a team around for a season documentary style and follow the drivers on their day to day, from garage to driver owner meetings to after hours with in depth look at a team, from driver to crew chief. Right now Jimmie Johnson is on Wind Tunnel with Dave Dispane. If any F1 driver could give as much time to these media outlets, we would have a much different opinion of them. That aint gonna happen in F1 although they are trying. NASCAR put on a better fan experience.

You and me were watching the same show. All that coverage is what sparked my initial post, plus some other shows I've caught on Speed by pure chance. I'm always amazed at how well-produced everything is, and how it is so fan-oriented,

What you're saying is all fine and dandy but it's also the biggest problem with NASCAR it's not really about the racing anymore. Nascar moved away from real racing a long time ago and has become nothing more than entertainment. It's a show not a sport anymore. NASCAR won't let any one team do better than the rest or start lapping the rest of the field because it's not entertaining, But it's also not really racing. Race control in NASCAR uses yellow flags to bunch the field together so the end of the race is more exciting, to me that is the equivalent of giving a soccer team free penalty kicks just so the end of the game is more exciting. I'm sorry but NASCAR constantly has contrived endings to their races, and that's BS. They gave up on trying to regulate different team's being creative with their aerodynamics when they were based on actual(Stock) cars and now they all run the same car bodies but with different headlight and grill stickers.

Furthermore I think since ABC bought Speed Channel and turned it into NASCAR TV it has a lot less interesting shows on.
Speed used to cover more exciting "Real" racing like sports cars,Touring cars, and Rallying (Thank god they're still covering F1) but those shows are few and far between now because Speed's coverage is centered around NASCAR and their "Entertainment Weekly" type shows about NASCAR drivers, their motorhomes, their wives, and their poodles named "fluffy" and "Goodyear" .

Speed has been owned by Rupert Murdoch's Fox for years.