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[stonemonkey]

Both Kimi and Lewis have said they don't think they'll be fighting for the championship this season, so why would their teams be interested in developing the double decker diffuser or any part of the car around it? I mean if they spend this season trying to catch up by doing that they're going to fall further behind next year once the diffuser thing's been outlawed and with such limited testing. Brawn decided to give up on one year and look where it got them. And then there's Red Bull, where's it going to put them once all the teams have to get rid of the thing?

[Gaz]

Both Kimi and Lewis have said they don't think they'll be fighting for the championship this season, so why would their teams be interested in developing the double decker diffuser or any part of the car around it? I mean if they spend this season trying to catch up by doing that they're going to fall further behind next year once the diffuser thing's been outlawed and with such limited testing. Brawn decided to give up on one year and look where it got them. And then there's Red Bull, where's it going to put them once all the teams have to get rid of the thing?

Because the cars arn't changing that much to next year and with the lack of inseason testing they can simply learn and evolve next years car.

oh and also they might learn somthing really cleaver and suddenly be the fastest car out there from Britan or Germany and they could win providing other teams push Brawn futher back.

[Gilles 27]

I've heard that the FIA are likely to close up the loopholes that allow things like pod-wing mirrors, double diffusers and other clever under tray tricks that the teams are using at the moment. This being the case, there will be no double diffusers on cars next season.

I imagine that at this stage in the year, there is still a lot that can happen and given how close the field is, the constructor's championship money is going to be worth fighting for. Ferrari in particular will now feel that they are getting somewhere with the car, they just need to cut out the stupid mistakes and Red bull will fancy the title if they can out develop Brawn

[stonemonkey]

Both Kimi and Lewis have said they don't think they'll be fighting for the championship this season, so why would their teams be interested in developing the double decker diffuser or any part of the car around it? I mean if they spend this season trying to catch up by doing that they're going to fall further behind next year once the diffuser thing's been outlawed and with such limited testing. Brawn decided to give up on one year and look where it got them. And then there's Red Bull, where's it going to put them once all the teams have to get rid of the thing?

Because the cars arn't changing that much to next year and with the lack of inseason testing they can simply learn and evolve next years car.

oh and also they might learn somthing really cleaver and suddenly be the fastest car out there from Britan or Germany and they could win providing other teams push Brawn futher back.

That's my point, if it takes a re-design to fit the double diffuser and make it work then it's going to take a re-design to remove it for next year.

[Gaz]

Both Kimi and Lewis have said they don't think they'll be fighting for the championship this season, so why would their teams be interested in developing the double decker diffuser or any part of the car around it? I mean if they spend this season trying to catch up by doing that they're going to fall further behind next year once the diffuser thing's been outlawed and with such limited testing. Brawn decided to give up on one year and look where it got them. And then there's Red Bull, where's it going to put them once all the teams have to get rid of the thing?

Because the cars arn't changing that much to next year and with the lack of inseason testing they can simply learn and evolve next years car.

oh and also they might learn somthing really cleaver and suddenly be the fastest car out there from Britan or Germany and they could win providing other teams push Brawn futher back.

That's my point, if it takes a re-design to fit the double diffuser and make it work then it's going to take a re-design to remove it for next year.

Thats if its banned, it may not be

[scotty]

I'd say that the teams (most of them anyway) must think there is a net gain of spending to remain competitive for this season, even if the technology they bring in will be outlawed... otherwise, why did anyone outside of Ferrari and McLaren bother developing their cars after this point last season?

[Hexagram]

That's my point, if it takes a re-design to fit the double diffuser and make it work then it's going to take a re-design to remove it for next year.

I don't think it is that much work to take it back off the car, they already had a design with it absent so technically they know how to remove it unlike williams, brawn & toyota who have not run their cars without it.

Still I understand what you are saying, surely some teams are pondering the idea of writing off this season, specially McLaren.

[cap-dude]

Of course the teams are still developing. No team is just there to finish in the points, not one. They all have the same goal, and thats winning. McLaren won't be thinking, world championship, but if they can get some podiums in and maybe even a win, that'll be victory enough for them this year, and they aren't about to earn those honors just sitting still.

Think, if you raced for Mclaren, would you not like some upgrades so that you could fight during races rather than just circle for 70 laps.

There's not even any point in writing off the season yet, since the rules for next year still need to be confirmed.

[Jensonb]

Both Kimi and Lewis have said they don't think they'll be fighting for the championship this season, so why would their teams be interested in developing the double decker diffuser or any part of the car around it? I mean if they spend this season trying to catch up by doing that they're going to fall further behind next year once the diffuser thing's been outlawed and with such limited testing. Brawn decided to give up on one year and look where it got them. And then there's Red Bull, where's it going to put them once all the teams have to get rid of the thing?

Because the cars arn't changing that much to next year and with the lack of inseason testing they can simply learn and evolve next years car.

oh and also they might learn somthing really cleaver and suddenly be the fastest car out there from Britan or Germany and they could win providing other teams push Brawn futher back.

That's a big "if".

[texasmr2]

IMO if McLaren and Ferrari dont make any significant leaps in performance by race #8 they should start focusing on next years car while still trying to improve this years car. What will really hurt though is the lack of in season testing yet if their 2010 chassis is exempt from the '09 in season testing ban, because the car is not entered in this years championship, they could really make a huge leap forward.

Does that make any sense?

tex

[bud]

IMO if McLaren and Ferrari dont make any significant leaps in performance by race #8 they should start focusing on next years car while still trying to improve this years car. What will really hurt though is the lack of in season testing yet if their 2010 chassis is exempt from the '09 in season testing ban, because the car is not entered in this years championship, they could really make a huge leap forward.

Does that make any sense?

tex

thats if Ferrari and McLaren are there next year! they could be racing in their own series

[Gaz]

Both Kimi and Lewis have said they don't think they'll be fighting for the championship this season, so why would their teams be interested in developing the double decker diffuser or any part of the car around it? I mean if they spend this season trying to catch up by doing that they're going to fall further behind next year once the diffuser thing's been outlawed and with such limited testing. Brawn decided to give up on one year and look where it got them. And then there's Red Bull, where's it going to put them once all the teams have to get rid of the thing?

Because the cars arn't changing that much to next year and with the lack of inseason testing they can simply learn and evolve next years car.

oh and also they might learn somthing really cleaver and suddenly be the fastest car out there from Britan or Germany and they could win providing other teams push Brawn futher back.

That's a big "if".

No you HOPE its a big IF.

[Jensonb]

Both Kimi and Lewis have said they don't think they'll be fighting for the championship this season, so why would their teams be interested in developing the double decker diffuser or any part of the car around it? I mean if they spend this season trying to catch up by doing that they're going to fall further behind next year once the diffuser thing's been outlawed and with such limited testing. Brawn decided to give up on one year and look where it got them. And then there's Red Bull, where's it going to put them once all the teams have to get rid of the thing?

Because the cars arn't changing that much to next year and with the lack of inseason testing they can simply learn and evolve next years car.

oh and also they might learn somthing really cleaver and suddenly be the fastest car out there from Britan or Germany and they could win providing other teams push Brawn futher back.

That's a big "if".

No you HOPE its a big IF.

No, it is a big "if".

[texasmr2]