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By EwanM
#90642
Here's another little game.
You have 18 Event slots, create ur dream F1 Season.
Which tracks should the F1 Circus Visit and in what order?

(To make it fair to those members young and old, try keep the circuit choice to tracks that are:
a) still active
b) not totally unrealistic)

Remember it's all a bit of fun. Screw Bernie...

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*EDIT: Also state the reasons behind your choices*
#90645
And here's mine:

1.South African Grand Prix: Kyalami (Ok, It would take major redevelopment but this track produced some interested races in 1992 and 1993)
2.Brazilian Grand Prix: Interlagos (Where better to Start the American Continent tour? I personally don't like Brazil near the end of the season.)
3.Mexican Grand Prix: Mexico (Again its past events produced some interesting races, but most importantly I liked the layout of the circuit.)
4.US Grand Prix: Long Beach (Bar Indy, I just don't feel that anywhere could hold a Grand Prix in America without a majorr upgrade. F1 returning to Long Beach would be amazing - especially snatching it from the IRL. It would be a real money spinner to)
5.Canadian Grand Prix: Montreal (The race which has produced some of the best races over the past few years. Must be kept!)
6. Portuguese Grand Prix: Algarve (The teams and drivers seem bigged up on it, and the layout looks interesting)
7.Spanish Grand Prix: Jerez (Would piss off the FIA, but also it is the only half decent Spanish track in my opinion. Moto Gp style crowds swarming the hillside of the track would be a nice addition.
8.Monaco Grand Prix: Monte Carlo (No question)
9.French Grand Prix: Le Mans (It has all of the facilities, and the racing pedigree. It would require a minor reconfigure, but its still a cheaper solution compared to building a brand new track.)
10.British Grand Prix: Silverstone (The Best Circuit in the UK. I'm all for Donnington, but it's no Silverstone.)
11.German Grand Prix: Nurburgring (I just prefer it to the "New Hock")
12.Belgian Grand Prix: Spa (No question)
13.Italian Grand Prix: Monza (Again, No Question)
14.Abu Dhabi Grand Prix: Abu Dhabi (We haven't seen the circuit yet, and it opens up a bit of a market for F1 there.)
15.Malaysian Grand Prix: Sepang (Sepang or Sakhir? Sepang or Sakhir? Sepang...)
16.Singapore Grand Prix: Singapore (To keep Bernie happy. I can stomach one night race a year, and this track has potential)
17.Japanese Grand Prix: Suzuka (The best Japanese circuit, sorry Fuji!)
18.Australian Grand Prix: Adelaide (Albert Park is a fine circuit, but a season finale at Adelaide sounds nicer to me!
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By Bruno_Brazil
#90647
1Spa
2Montral
3Monaco
4Suzuka
5Monza
6Silverstone
7Brands Hatch
8Interlagos
9spa
10Watkins
11Jerez
12Estoril
13Brno
14A1
15Paul Ricard
16Zandvoort
17Imola
18Albert Park


Not in this order necessarily.
And I think im being unfair, I probably forgot some circuits..=p



*Screw Bernie [2]
#90648
Brazil was one the beginning circits few years ago.
I personaly like it in the end because I can see a decision like last year(sad by the way) :hehe:
#90649
And here's mine:

1.South African Grand Prix: Kyalami (Ok, It would take major redevelopment but this track produced some interested races in 1992 and 1993)
2.Brazilian Grand Prix: Interlagos (Where better to Start the American Continent tour? I personally don't like Brazil near the end of the season.)
3.Mexican Grand Prix: Mexico (Again its past events produced some interesting races, but most importantly I liked the layout of the circuit.)
4.US Grand Prix: Long Beach (Bar Indy, I just don't feel that anywhere could hold a Grand Prix in America without a majorr upgrade. F1 returning to Long Beach would be amazing - especially snatching it from the IRL. It would be a real money spinner to)
5.Canadian Grand Prix: Montreal (The race which has produced some of the best races over the past few years. Must be kept!)
6. Portuguese Grand Prix: Algarve (The teams and drivers seem bigged up on it, and the layout looks interesting)
7.Spanish Grand Prix: Jerez (Would piss off the FIA, but also it is the only half decent Spanish track in my opinion. Moto Gp style crowds swarming the hillside of the track would be a nice addition.
8.Monaco Grand Prix: Monte Carlo (No question)
9.French Grand Prix: Le Mans (It has all of the facilities, and the racing pedigree. It would require a minor reconfigure, but its still a cheaper solution compared to building a brand new track.)
10.British Grand Prix: Silverstone (The Best Circuit in the UK. I'm all for Donnington, but it's no Silverstone.)
11.German Grand Prix: Nurburgring (I just prefer it to the "New Hock")
12.Belgian Grand Prix: Spa (No question)
13.Italian Grand Prix: Monza (Again, No Question)
14.Abu Dhabi Grand Prix: Abu Dhabi (We haven't seen the circuit yet, and it opens up a bit of a market for F1 there.)
15.Malaysian Grand Prix: Sepang (Sepang or Sakhir? Sepang or Sakhir? Sepang...)
16.Singapore Grand Prix: Singapore (To keep Bernie happy. I can stomach one night race a year, and this track has potential)
17.Japanese Grand Prix: Suzuka (The best Japanese circuit, sorry Fuji!)
18.Australian Grand Prix: Adelaide (Albert Park is a fine circuit, but a season finale at Adelaide sounds nicer to me!


My calendar is almost identical, with the same reasonings. Some slight differences, but not too much:

1. Australia - Albert Park: I love it as a season opener and think that it has produced a great number of fantastic races in the past. Definitely a good way to kick off the season.

2. South Africa - Kyalami

3. Brazil - Interlagos

4. Mexico - Hermanos Rodríguez

5. USA - Long Beach

6. Canada - Montreal

7. USA - Indianapolis: The USA really needs more than one race in order to attract a decent level of interest and I've always had a soft spot for Indy ever since it was added to the calendar.

8. Portugal - Portimao

9. Spain - Jerez

10. France - Le Mans

11. Great Britain - Silverstone: I wanted to put Brands Hatch down for this one, because I think it is the best track in Britain, however it would actually be impossible to hold a Formula One grand prix here because of the noise pollution restrictions and the fact that there are a couple of areas on the track that need larger run-off areas but the expansion can't be carried out because it would end up in peoples' houses.

12. Germany - Hockenheim: I prefer even the new Hockenheim to the Nurburgring, although I will admit that it isn't as good as it used to be. Still, it produces some good racing and Mr. Tilke didn't do a terrible job with what he was given.

13. Monaco

14. Italy - Monza

15. Belgium - Spa Francorchamps

16. Turkey - Istanbul: I love this circuit, it's just a shame that it's always so empty, because it really is a good race.

17. Malaysia - Sepang

18. Japan - Suzuka
#90650
Good idea Ewan, gives me something to do on a boring sunday night. Here's my calendar for if I overthrew Bernie and took control of FOM.

1. Interlagos (Brazilian GP) - I was going to say Jacarepagua but sadly that circuit has now been torn up. Brazil has traditionally hosted the first round (or one of the first rounds of the season), so I'm restoring it to its former glory.

2. Imola (San Marino GP) - It's spring, and for lunch today it's lasagne or pasta. The perfect sunday meal to have whilst sitting down to watch the San Marino Grand Prix after I have rescued it. It's not been quite the same since that tragic weekend in 1994, but there have been some great moments since then such as Schumacher and Alonso's scrap in the closing laps of the 2005 race.

3. Monte Carlo (Monaco GP) - Where would the May bank holiday weekend be without the streets of Monte Carlo? Overtaking may be limited but you can't afford to not have Monaco on the calendar.

4. Autodromo Hermanos Rodrigues (Mexican GP) - One of my all time favourite tracks. The Peralta may not be banked anymore (and it now has a baseball stadium on the inside of the corner!!) but it's still one of my favourite corners, particularly for Mansell's pass on Berger at the 1990 race when he went round the outside! One of the bumpiest tracks and lots of very tough twisty, variable speed corners for the drivers to contend with.

5. Phoenix Street Circuit (US GP) - If 80 laps around this tough but relatively quick street circuit doesn't sort the men from the boys, the 100 degree Arizona summer heat will. My early memories of racing there were Jean Alesi re-overtaking Senna for the lead in 1990.

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Dallas Street Circuit - Why this track was only used once I'll never know. The one time it was used in 1984 produced a classic. Plenty of argy-bargy action, Mansell pushing his car across the line and then collapsing, Jacques Laffite turning up at the track in his pyjamas (!), J.R from the "Dallas" TV series waving the green flag for the formation lap and Keke Rosberg surviving the crumbling track and unforgiving concrete walls. In the modern days of the safety car coming out at the drop of a hat, this race would probably see the safety car as the winner considering the amount of time it could potentially spend on track!

OR

Long Beach - Although Phoenix and Dallas haven't been used for such a long time, the streets they used are still there and if a race was hosted there it would still be possible to use the same layout. However if neither qualify I would choose Long Beach. A nice long curved start/finish straight, hosted some classic races in F1 and Indy cars over the years. A good way to bring out the American fans.

6. Montreal (Canadian GP) - Bernie was a total idiot for dropping this track, it's a classic. Even with no Canadian driver in the current field, the fans always turn out in their droves and know how to create an atmosphere, even when drivers are too scared to come out during qualifying (anybody remember the 1997 qualifying session when nobody came out for well over half an hour and the fans were still Mexican waving?).

7. Paul Ricard (French GP) - The French GP is back, Magny-Bores has been dropped and we're off back to Paul Ricard relaid with its French patriotic blue-coloured gravel traps and the VERY long back straight. This track should never have been dropped.

8. Silverstone (British GP) - Where would a classic British summer be without a trip to Silverstone? Come rain or shine, Silverstone is still one of the quicker tracks despite the additions of slower corners over the years. Keeping this on is what everybody except Bernie would love.

9. Nurburgring (German GP) - My heart wants me to say the legendary and terrifying Nordschleife circuit. But my head says the "New"burgring as I like to call it. It's not a bad track, but I only chose it because "classic" Hockenheim cannot be re-incarnated.

10. Zaandvoort (Dutch GP) -A classic track built by the late, great John Hugenholtz - a man whose shoes Hermann Tilke would not even be worthy enough to polish. Mika Hakkinen once said he wish every track in the world was built by Hugenholtz.

11. Spa Francochamps (Belgian GP) - Only a fool, an idiot or Bernie wouldn't have this track on the calendar. Enough said.

12. Monza (Italian GP) - In the modern age of Tilke's crap tracks F1 has lost a lot of its high-speed tracks. Monza still provides the high-speed thrills.

13. Estoril (Portuguese GP) - Estoril is sadly not the same as it used to be with its fast opening two right handers, but it's still a decent track and who can forget JV overtaking Schumacher on the outside of the parabolica?

14. Jerez (Spanish GP) - Now I have ditched Catalunya-wn and Valenci-yawn, this is the best of the Spanish tracks, famous for Mansell and Senna's last lap duel in 1986 and Schumacher's infamous lunge on JV in the title decider in 1997. Bernie only threw it off the calendar when the local mayor screwed up the podium ceremony, very petty if you ask me.

15. Brands Hatch (European GP) - The leaves are starting to turn brown, there is a chill in the air, but who can resist the sight of an F1 car launching down Paddock Hill bend at 100mph and then up again towards Druids? Who care if Dr Palmer says the circuit's not big enough today? He wouldn't say no if I offered the circuit a spot on the calendar. A good way to end the European season.

16. Kylami (South African GP) - The track isn't as good as it used to be, but it's still a race that is missed on the calendar. A good stopover between Britain and Japan.

17. Suzuka (Japanese GP) - The drivers love it, the fans love it, I love it, and it's another track built by John Hugenholz. Who wouldn't want it on the calendar??

18. Adelaide (Australian GP) - Where would F1 be without what used to be the classic "end of season party atmosphere"? Especially after either a hard, tough 81 lap race or a 2 hour slog through a track that is like driving on ice when it rains.

If another track was allowed, I would have also included Buenos Aries for the Argentine GP, and if the 2009 cars work well, the Hungaroring could be spared too (ONLY if the 2009 cars work there).
#90654
Sounds fun.

1. Montreal (Montreal always offers the most unpredictable races)

2. spa (Its a pure classic. Plus, with its mirco climate, you can have sudden rain 3 laps to go, and see two world champions fall over each other)

3. suzuka (Another classic really)

4. Losali - Quatar (A proper track with flood lights thats been running night races, lately for GP2 and Moto GP, and it provided a damn good race)

5. Monaco (It will never leave the F1 circuit. Never)

6. Singapore (It did provide a good race this year, and which improvements being made, it can only get better)

7. Turkey (Its a great track, thats given us decent races despite a lack of chaos. Overtaking is always good round it)

8. Interlagos (I always liked this little track. The senna s has to be one of my favourite overtaking spots)

9. LeMans (Its such a legendary track, you just want to see F1 cars around it)

10. Laguna Seca (something tells me the racing would be poor, but its an interesting race all the same)

11. San Marino (Rollacoster speed and corners. Fun track)

12. Monza (Such a unique track, and you need many different tracks in a season)

13. Algarve (Looks like a good circuit, but we've yet to see really)

14. Silverstone (Out of all the british tracks I can think of, this just seems the interesting)

15. Nurburgring (If only it were the full track, but we know thats not gonna happen)

16. Jerez (We've tried to other spanish tracks, and neither are that great. Jerez could be interesting)

2 more, meh, Bahrain and Abu Dhabi then.
maybe Kylami. But I'll not have seen the track till A1 race there next week.
#90713
1. Australia - Albert Park
2. Japan - Suzuka
3. South Africa - Kyalami
4. Argentina - Autódromo Juan y Óscar Gálvez
5. Brazil - Interlagos
6. Mexico - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez
7. U.S.A. - Laguna Seca
8. Canada - Montreal
9. Turkey - Istanbul Park
10. Italy - Monza
11. Monaco - Monte Carlo
12. France - Paul Ricard
13. Germany - Nürburgring
14. Netherlands - Circuit Park Zandvoort
15. Spain - Jerez
16. Portugal - Autódromo Internacional do Algarve
17. U.K. - Silverstone
18. Belgium - Spa Francorchamps

I tried to arrange the circuits by continent, so that the teams would have less logistical work, and that could cut costs and sport's carbon footprint slightly.

I would have liked to have had the Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari, Imola on the calendar, but I think the circuit has been spoiled. Even after it was modified after Senna's accident, it was still a very good circuit. In fact, you could argue that in some ways the changes added to challenge of the circuit. However, in the last three years or so, more modifications have been made which have completely ruined the circuit. The Variante Alta was needlessly tampered with and the removal of the rather tricky Variante Bassa was the last straw. It's really sad, because I always loved Imola, but that's how it is. :(
Last edited by McLaren Fan on 16 Feb 09, 22:10, edited 2 times in total.
#90726
1. Australia - Albert Park
2. Japan - Suzuka
3. South Africa - Kyalami
4. Argentina - Autódromo Juan y Óscar Gálvez
5. Brazil - Interlagos
6. Mexico - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez
7. U.S.A. - Laguna Seca
8. Canada - Montreal
9. Turkey - Istanbul Park
10. Italy - Monza
11. Monaco - Monte Carlo
12. France - Paul Ricard
13. Germany - Nürburgring
14. Netherlands - Circuit Park Zandvoort
15. Spain - Jerez
16. Portugal -Autódromo Internacional do Algarve
17. U.K. - Silverstone
18. Belgium - Spa Francorchamps

I tried to arrange the circuits by continent, so that the teams would have less logistical work, and that could cut costs and sport's carbon footprint slightly.

I would have liked to have had the Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari, Imola on the calendar, but I think the circuit has been spoiled. Even after it was modified after Senna's accident, it was still a very good circuit. In some ways, the changes added to challenges to the circuit. However, in the three years or so, more modifications have been made which have completely ruined the circuit. The Variante Alta was needlessly tampered with and the removal of the rather tricky Variante Bassa was the last straw. It's really sad, because I always loved Imola, but that's how it is. :(


Nice one!
I would probably have China in there as well (emerging market and all) plus a couple of rotating GPs among Russia, Bahrain, Singapore, Malaysia, Abu Dhabi, South Korea, India - just to mix it up and throw a monkey wrench for the teams :P
#90747
Thanks, DD. I should say, though, that I've no problems with Ecclestone wanting to expand Formula One into new markets. In fact, doing so is necessary for the sport's development. That said, I don't feel it's enough for a country looking to attract Formula One to simply build a circuit with a top-drawer VIP facilities and expect a place on the calendar. The quality of the racing must be the sport's chief concern - and it's what the sport is ultimately going to be judged on. Places like China or Singapore have built venues which are aesthetically pleasing, but which fall very short of the mark as regards entertaining racing. Of all the newer circuits in Formula One, only Istanbul has impressed. So, I would like to see places in the Middle East etc. on the calendar, but only if they build venues which allow for exciting races.
#90762
Thanks, DD. I should say, though, that I've no problems with Ecclestone wanting to expand Formula One into new markets. In fact, doing so is necessary for the sport's development. That said, I don't feel it's enough for a country looking to attract Formula One to simply build a circuit with a top-drawer VIP facilities and expect a place on the calendar. The quality of the racing must be the sport's chief concern - and it's what the sport is ultimately going to be judged on. Places like China or Singapore have built venues which are aesthetically pleasing, but which fall very short of the mark as regards entertaining racing. Of all the newer circuits in Formula One, only Istanbul has impressed. So, I would like to see places in the Middle East etc. on the calendar, but only if they build venues which allow for exciting races.


I agree to a large extent, but would also include economic/global considerations, hence China, etc. Besides, wouldn't you agree that part of the lame racing we've seen in some places can also be attributed to the cars being as overtaking-unfriendly as they were? So, this might hopefully change a tad this year.
#90765
I agree that a lot of the reason why we've seen less exciting racing in Formula One has been down in large part to the regulations. But when you look at the layout of the newer circuits, they just aren't in the same league as the more traditional circuits. Places like the Bahrain International Circuit have far fewer challenging corners and technical challenges for the engineers to deal with than, say, Spa.
#90768
Well, as long as the Hungaroring gets axed, I'd be happy :P

It looks like a circuit that would be fun to drive around, but it's far too narrow to make for good racing. :wavey:
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By f1ea
#90946
I'd divide in Legs for cost cutting, and restrict teams to bring and test new developments to the only 4 official Testing Sessions. Limited kms for each session with a a mandatory "rookie training" quota of say 10% of the total allowed kms per session. So it goes:

- PRE SEASON TESTING #1: Bahrain
- ASIA
1. Melbourne
2. Suzuka
3. Singapore - night race
4. Shanghai
5. Abu Dhabi

- IN SEASON TESTING #2: Sepang
- EUROPE 1
6. Turkey
7. Imola
8. Monza
9. Monaco

- IN SEASON TESTING #3: Barcelona
- EUROPE 2
10. Valencia
11. Spa
12. Nurburgring
13. Silverstone

- IN SEASON TESTING #4: Paul Ricard
- AMERICA
14. Montreal - Giles Villeneuve
15. USGP - Long beach
16. Mexico - Hnos. Rodriguez
17. Argentina - Juan y Oscar Galvez
18. Interlagos
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