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[bud]

Motor racing chief Max Mosley denies involvement in a "sick Nazi orgy" and insists his interest in sado-masochistic umpalumpa is "perfectly harmless".

Mosley, president of Formula One's governing body the International Automobile Federation (FIA), defended his behaviour while launching a landmark legal action against a British tabloid newspaper.

He is suing the News of the World Sunday newspaper for breach of privacy over a story which claimed he had taken part in a Nazi-themed encounter with prostitutes.

But the 68-year-old son of Britain's 1930s Fascist leader Sir Oswald Mosley stood by his interest in sado-masochism and told a London court judge that role-play added to the atmosphere.

"It's just more — fun is probably the wrong word — but it's much better if accompanied by something which seems to justify what is going on," he told London's High Court.

At one point during the hearing the London court heard the recorded sounds of slapping and thwacking from an audio tape featuring a woman speaking German, the Daily Mail reports.

"I fundamentally disagree with the suggestion that any of this is depraved," he said.

"I think it is a perfectly harmless activity provided it is between consenting adults who want to do it, are of sound mind, and it is in private."

Lawyers for Mosley told the court that News of the World was guilty of "a gross and indefensible intrusion of his private life".

The FIA chief had been interested in sado-masochism from an early age, his lawyer James Price said, but there were no Nazi connotations to the events covered by the newspaper, which involved five women whom Mosley admitted he had paid $5,200.

Mosley said he could think of few more "unerotic" things than Nazi role-play.

"There was not even a hint of that — certainly not in my mind and, I'm convinced, not in the minds of any of the other participants. It simply didn't arise," he told the court.

Mosley faced pressure to quit his job after the story was published in March along with a series of lurid photographs and video footage on the newspaper's website. However, he won a vote of confidence at an FIA extraordinary general assembly last month.

The News of the World said it was justified in publishing the story because of Mosley's public role. However Price said the paper had been acting like a "peeping Tom".

"If the newspaper was hoping to get pictures of Mr Mosley doing a Nazi salute and saying 'Sieg Heil' or doing anything else connected to a death camp, they were to be completely disappointed," Price said.

The pictures were made worse by the "false suggestion that the events depicted involved him in playing a concentration camp commandant, mocking the humiliating way Jews were treated by SS death camp guards in World War Two", the lawyer said.

Price said the story had been driven entirely by Mosley's family name and the paper's pursuit of "sexual titillation".

"Bottom-spanking, whip fantasy and role play scenarios are an interest Mr Mosley accepts he has had since quite a young age," Price told the court.

He also revealed that neither his wife of 48 years nor sons knew about his interest in sado-masochism until the News of the World article.

"She never knew of this aspect of my life, so that headline in the newspaper was completely, totally devastating for her," he said, adding he could think of "nothing more undignified or humiliating" for his sons.

News Group Newspapers is strongly contesting the action, which includes an unprecedented claim in a privacy case for exemplary or punitive damages as well as compensatory damages.

she never knew this aspect of my life...... nice sob story there Max your poor wife its all the newspapers fault isnt it!
If you kept your sausage in your pants you wouldnt be in this position regardless if it was a breach of your privacy or not w***er! Your wifes pain and sons shame is your fault you gutless old man!

[f1_babe_08]

what people dont realise is that max mosleys dad was a nazi but i agree that its wrong to do something like that when he is so clearly in the public eye! but again tabloids are making such a big deal out of it!

[EwanM]

Is he still together with his wife by the way?

[bud]

Is he still together with his wife by the way?

he has probably tied her up somewhere

[texasmr2]

what people dont realise is that max mosleys dad was a nazi!

Actually everyone know's that little tidbit especially after Max's little freakfest escapade's.

he has probably tied her up somewhere.

[McLaren Fan]

Is he still together with his wife by the way?

he has probably tied her up somewhere

Legally speaking, was Mosley's privacy invaded? Possibly. He has a case there. That, however, is not the issue. Claiming concern for wife and son is despicable. What Mosley is suggesting is that his actions were fine because his wife and child did not know about them; the only crime was in getting caught.

His private life has become public. He should have gone and is being completely selfish in staying, damaging the sport.

[McLaren Fan]

From bbc.co.uk:

Mosley acted out 'prison fantasy'

Max Mosley said he spoke German "because it suited his dominant role"

One of the women who took part in a sadomasochistic session with motorsport boss Max Mosley has denied there was any Nazi role-play.

Instead, the witness, known as "Woman D", told the High Court that what had happened had been a "prison fantasy".

Mr Mosley is taking legal action against the News of the World which alleged he had engaged in a "sick Nazi orgy with five hookers".

He is suing the newspaper for defamation and invasion of privacy.

Woman D, a dark-haired student in her 20s who cannot be identified, said: "I did not see anything Nazi".

She added that when she discovered that one of the other women taking part in the session had secretly filmed it, she was "horrified".

She said: "I didn't think that anyone on the scene would do anything like that."

She burst into tears as she told the court that those involved would try to "make sure everything remains secret".

Earlier, Mr Mosley said that at no time did he or woman A, who arranged the "parties" like the one in the Chelsea basement flat on March 28, ever use the word Nazi in their discussions.

He said that a Nazi theme would have been "abhorrent" to him.

He added: "I suspect that none of the women would wish to take part should anyone suggest such a theme."

Before the court went into private to view a videotape of a similar scenario, which occurred on March 8, Mr Mosley agreed that the March 28 session involved women wearing black jackets, black boots and a black cap, but denied any Nazi aspect.

He said: "Had I wanted a Nazi scene, I would have said I wanted one and A would have got some of the inexpensive Nazi stuff from the joke shop that provides uniforms and would not have gone to Marks and Spencer and got quite expensive jackets."

He said that if he had asked for a Nazi theme, he would have been deeply disappointed to be greeted, as he was, with the phrase "Welcome to Chelsea" rather than "Brandenburg Tur".

Mr Mosley told Mark Warby QC, for the News of the World, that the head-lice checking and shaving involved in the scenario was "the kind of thing these people do all the time".

He said: "I had never had lice-checking before but went with the flow. I didn't find it particularly erotic."

Mr Mosley, the 68-year-old son of the 1930s Fascist leader Sir Oswald Mosley, said that he spoke German during the session.

But he said this was not for any war-related reasons, but because it was a language that suited his dominant role.

He said: "German also somehow sounds appropriate for a bossy dominant character. It is a harsh-sounding - rather than a romantic - language."

Mr Mosley says that his life was devastated by the News of the World story and is asking for an unprecedented award of punitive exemplary damages.

News Group Newspapers, which published the News of the World, is contesting the action, arguing that publication was justified in the public interest.

[McLaren Fan]

From Planet F1:

Editor hits back at Mosley
Wednesday 9th July 2008

Motorsport boss Max Mosley instigated a "crime upon himself'' when he took part in what the News of the World called a "sick Nazi orgy'', its editor told the High Court on Wednesday.

Colin Myler said that the role-play which included the 68-year-old being caned until blood was drawn did not just have a Nazi element to it, but also a "potential criminal flavour''.

Cross-examining, Mr Mosley's QC, James Price, said one would expect beatings at an S and M session.

Mr Myler replied: "You say it was S and M but blood was drawn. I know it was drawn because he had a plaster on his bottom. I think it was after he'd had 15 beatings of the cane.''

Mr Price said the newspaper was accusing Mr Mosley of "instigating a crime upon himself''.

"Are you serious?'', he asked Mr Myler.

The editor replied: "It is what Mr Mosley did. The News of the World did not take Mr Mosley kicking and screaming to that apartment, that flat in Chelsea.

"The News of the World did not engage five girls for five hours of what went on - which was brutal.''

Mr Myler has told Mr Justice Eady, who is hearing the landmark breach of privacy action in London, that he believed the story was one of "legitimate public interest and one that I believe was legitimately published''.

It was "absolutely not true'' that the paper fabricated the Nazi aspect of the story, Myler said.

Mosley, the 68-year-old son of the 1930s Fascist leader Sir Oswald Mosley, says that his life was devastated by the expose in March of what the newspaper called a "sick Nazi orgy with five hookers'', and the president of the FIA is asking for an unprecedented award of punitive exemplary damages.

[bud]

what will happen to the FIA if the court throws out his case......

[Martin]

what will happen to the FIA if the court throws out his case......

Very good point Bud. Trouble is, MM seems to be able to control everyone in FIA, its partly why he won the confidence vote.
It seems that very few people who really matter in F1 support him, and very few senior people from other motor sport formats. The Germans, the Japanese and the Jews don't want to deal with him. I think that he should just resign, but I thought that a long time ago and he didn't, and he wont. I don't think that anyone within the FIA is strong enough to get him out, they will hide behind the confidence vote.
We are stuck with the scumbag of a man until he decides to go. This post has not had many responses, I think that people are bored with him and they know that he has the FIA around his little finger (or his little willy) 'cos they have been well fu**ed.

[EwanM]

LEGEND

See this man's newspaper know how to defend themselves. Only Elton John stopped em.

[f1ea]

Motor racing chief Max Mosley... insists his interest in sado-masochistic umpalumpa is "perfectly harmless".

Yeah. So is the NOTW's
And to spice up this thread... so is mine.

[racechick]

Did anyone hear the bit on the news about it? Four of the girls said in court that there were no Nazzi connotations. A tape was then played of one of the girls saying words to the effect of 'we are Aryan ,we are the master race'. When asked about why she said this she said she didnt know what Aryan meant. Wonder who told her to say it then

[EwanM]

Did anyone hear the bit on the news about it? Four of the girls said in court that there were no Nazzi connotations. A tape was then played of one of the girls saying words to the effect of 'we are Aryan ,we are the master race'. When asked about why she said this she said she didnt know what Aryan meant. Wonder who told her to say it then

One of them said that going to the dentist was more painful thank spanking.

:S

[texasmr2]

Did anyone hear the bit on the news about it? Four of the girls said in court that there were no Nazzi connotations. A tape was then played of one of the girls saying words to the effect of 'we are Aryan ,we are the master race'. When asked about why she said this she said she didnt know what Aryan meant. Wonder who told her to say it then

Ignorance IS bliss right!