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#51055
From F1 Live:

Sebastian Vettel on Sunday stated - quite correctly - that he backs the decision to give Lewis Hamilton a controversial drive-through penalty during the French Grand Prix.

The Toro Rosso driver was passed by Hamilton at the Magny-Cours circuit, moments before the McLaren driver cut a chicane and triggered a stewards' investigation and subsequent drive-through penalty.

"He had a better exit than me from the Adelaide hairpin," Vettel explained. "I was inside, to defend my position, and had the better line for curves six and seven. Lewis arrived with more speed; I went from the gas and braked and he kept going. For me it was clear that he was going to cut the chicane."

The 20-year-old German said Hamilton would not have been penalised had he immediately let him take back the position.


"He cut the chicane completely," he said. "I had a similar situation at the Monaco chicane, when I was too late on the brakes. I overtook two cars but I let them go again and so the issue was settled.

"If someone stays out in front, there is a penalty. I think he should have let me past again because he had a better car and could have passed me again."


That little toad Vettel has a cheek to come out with that series of remarks. The fool must need reminding of his actions two weeks ago in Canada when he repeatedly cut the final chicane in order to get a superior exit speed. That, of course, went completely unpunished by the stewards, despite being on television and right under Whiting's nose. :thumbdown:
#51058
I am a little confused as to why Vettel got away with cutting the chicane and being able to get away from Kovalainen too at Canada, and also I remember Schumacher doing the same thing 3 or so laps in a row at Hungary 2006.
#51144
I am a little confused as to why Vettel got away with cutting the chicane and being able to get away from Kovalainen too at Canada, and also I remember Schumacher doing the same thing 3 or so laps in a row at Hungary 2006.

The difference was Michael retired from the race in the end so it didn't really effect the result.
#51151
Fu*king politics! :ranting:
#51172
That little toad Vettel has a cheek to come out with that series of remarks. The fool must need reminding of his actions two weeks ago in Canada when he repeatedly cut the final chicane in order to get a superior exit speed. That, of course, went completely unpunished by the stewards, despite being on television and right under Whiting's nose.


Everything Vettel said is verbatum from the rulebook. The FIA's rulebook and every sanctioning bodies rulebook from kiddie gokarts, motorcycles, amateur club racing....EVERY RACING EVERYWHERE does not allow that pass. It is the PASS that is prohibited...not the off track excursion. I did see him cut the chicane in Canada once a couple weeks ago and said, I am not sure he should get away with that...but it wasn't a pass, so that area is grey in the rulebooks more often than not. Still, that doesn't make Hamilton's pass any less than blatantly and clearly illegal.
#51174
Not a Lewis fan then eh? racechick will love you. :D
#51181
Look Hamilton made a mistake, Mclaren made a Mistake. They got penalties and it's in the past... legit or not.

He's only10points behind now, he could easily win at Silverstone and the Ferrari DNF. This is F1, the 4 drivers in the 2 top teams, can't seem to string a set of results together even if it hit them in the face...
Only one really close to it is Felipe.
#51187
Not a Lewis fan then eh? racechick will love you. :D



Not really no, but then I'm not a red car fan either. This year I admit I sorta waffle back and forth between BMW, Renault, Kimi and whoever just passed Hamilton, though coultard ending up on the podium was very nice too. Great to see whatshisname get 3rd today as well. Alonso's whining gets annoying but I have to respect his driving skill, Heikki is the man, Kubica has to be one of the luckiest (and coolest) guys on the grid. Favorite F1 moment of the year so far? Kimi walking past Hamilton while Hamilton did everything in his power not to look at him, tapping him on the shoulder and pointing to the pit light......classic.
#51196
Not a Lewis fan then eh? racechick will love you. :D

Yeah Ive clockd him and his drivel. Not worth answering most of the time. Had to laugh at this one though "Heiki is the man" Now I like Heikki, he's a cool guy, but look at results mister Biting-statue-man, If Heiki 'is the man' what does that make lewis since he consistently beats him . Unbelievable :vomit:
#51204
Look Hamilton made a mistake, Mclaren made a Mistake. They got penalties and it's in the past... legit or not.

He's only10points behind now, he could easily win at Silverstone and the Ferrari DNF. This is F1, the 4 drivers in the 2 top teams, can't seem to string a set of results together even if it hit them in the face...
Only one really close to it is Felipe.

Hamilton made a mistake going off the track, but letting Vettel past would also have been a mistake. The overtaking maneuver was made long before the corner. If Hamilton braked/lifted off to avoid going off the track, he would still have had enough speed and Vettel would have been sufficiently far behind for Hamilton to successfully defend his position. I say again, the FIA are inconsistent, biased scum.
#51205
Not a Lewis fan then eh? racechick will love you. :D

Yeah Ive clockd him and his drivel. Not worth answering most of the time. Had to laugh at this one though "Heiki is the man" Now I like Heikki, he's a cool guy, but look at results mister Biting-statue-man, If Heiki 'is the man' what does that make lewis since he consistently beats him . Unbelievable :vomit:


How can you say that? Heikki has had the worst luck ever this year including an unlucky safety car in Aus, Penalty in Malaysia, rim failure in Spain, getting clipped at the start by Raikkonen in Turkey, and a failure in the steering wheel in Monaco. You cant judge Heikki and Lewis simply by the results. In qualifying, Heikki is just as fast sometimes faster than your beloved Hamilton.
#51206
Look Hamilton made a mistake, Mclaren made a Mistake. They got penalties and it's in the past... legit or not.

He's only10points behind now, he could easily win at Silverstone and the Ferrari DNF. This is F1, the 4 drivers in the 2 top teams, can't seem to string a set of results together even if it hit them in the face...
Only one really close to it is Felipe.

Hamilton made a mistake going off the track, but letting Vettel past would also have been a mistake. The overtaking maneuver was made long before the corner. If Hamilton braked/lifted off to avoid going off the track, he would still have had enough speed and Vettel would have been sufficiently far behind for Hamilton to successfully defend his position. I say again, the FIA are inconsistent, biased scum.


Hey, Im not gonna comment on it, what I was saying is we just have to accept it and move on, wrong decision or not.
#51209
Look Hamilton made a mistake, Mclaren made a Mistake. They got penalties and it's in the past... legit or not.

He's only10points behind now, he could easily win at Silverstone and the Ferrari DNF. This is F1, the 4 drivers in the 2 top teams, can't seem to string a set of results together even if it hit them in the face...
Only one really close to it is Felipe.

Hamilton made a mistake going off the track, but letting Vettel past would also have been a mistake. The overtaking maneuver was made long before the corner. If Hamilton braked/lifted off to avoid going off the track, he would still have had enough speed and Vettel would have been sufficiently far behind for Hamilton to successfully defend his position. I say again, the FIA are inconsistent, biased scum.

Agreed MclarenFan

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