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[f1usa]

When in the hell is Ferrari going to get over it.

[texasmr2]

When in the hell is Ferrari going to get over it.

When they feel validated.

[f1usa]

No, they want to destroy McLaren completely. After every hearing Ferrari will publish the same BS. If McLaren wins first two races of season, exactly how bitter will Ferrari be.

[texasmr2]

Dont just make a new post so you can express your hatred for Ferrari there are plenty of thread's that you can just jump right into. It normally help's if one post a link or explanation pertaining to their thread topic and it's meaning? So it would be appreciated if you would offer us alittle more insight as to the meaning of your thread topic, inquireing mind's want to know .

[bud]

I get what he is saying. Montezelmo should stfu he always talks out of his arse to the press. And Todt well dont even need to explain that two faced swine!

Ferrari publicly stated they were happy with the FIA's decision to stop the investigation so why go on gass bagging if youre happy?

[texasmr2]

OK so we are referring to Ferrari's continued persuit of legal action right?

http://www.forumula1.com/2007/f1/f1-new ... al-action/

[bud]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64451

Montezemolo at his gutter talk best

[f1usa]

Tex, read autosport.com and planetf1.com. Am I responsible for you being informed.

[texasmr2]

Tex, read autosport.com and planetf1.com. Am I responsible for you being informed.

Well I apologize as I dont read those because I get enough F1 new's from this website. Your not responsible for anyone but yourself and you initial post was just a rant without any reference material for us.

[7UpJordan]

I find this puzzling, considering Ferrari said they were completely satisfied with McLaren getting a huge fine and kicked out of the constructors Championship, what more do they want?

[MARK HUGHES]

I get what he is saying. Montezelmo should stfu he always talks out of his arse to the press. And Todt well dont even need to explain that two faced swine!

Ferrari publicly stated they were happy with the FIA's decision to stop the investigation so why go on gass bagging if youre happy?

Bud I see you are still up to your old tricks by blaming everyone else but McLaren. Did you not see Jean Todt 's comments today and I quote
"At the hearing McLaren came with 200 signatures of managers saying they never had access to the information.

"Then, three months later, when the FIA did its verifications, it was demonstrated that was completely false. They went corrupting their own personnel to make them sign false documentation."

Asking 200 of your employees to lie under oath in court.Real classy Bud mate.I really don't know how Ron "The Devil" Dennis can show his face in public never mind be involved at a high level in F1 ever again. McLaren are the biggest , cheating, lying , robbing , cowards in the history of Formula 1.
I would love to have a one on one with him to ask him certain questions as I was a McLaren fanatic Bud until I witnessed the disgraceful treatment of the brilliant and inspiring Fernando Alonso.God bless you FA , your ethics and love of the sport came before chasing more titles and money.If only we had more guys like you in F1

[deMuRe]

I get what he is saying. Montezelmo should stfu he always talks out of his arse to the press. And Todt well dont even need to explain that two faced swine!

Ferrari publicly stated they were happy with the FIA's decision to stop the investigation so why go on gass bagging if youre happy?

Bud I see you are still up to your old tricks by blaming everyone else but McLaren. Did you not see Jean Todt 's comments today and I quote
"At the hearing McLaren came with 200 signatures of managers saying they never had access to the information.

"Then, three months later, when the FIA did its verifications, it was demonstrated that was completely false. They went corrupting their own personnel to make them sign false documentation."

Asking 200 of your employees to lie under oath in court.Real classy Bud mate.I really don't know how Ron "The Devil" Dennis can show his face in public never mind be involved at a high level in F1 ever again. McLaren are the biggest , cheating, lying , robbing , cowards in the history of Formula 1.
I would love to have a one on one with him to ask him certain questions as I was a McLaren fanatic Bud until I witnessed the disgraceful treatment of the brilliant and inspiring Fernando Alonso.God bless you FA , your ethics and love of the sport came before chasing more titles and money.If only we had more guys like you in F1

Good post Mark.

[bud]

I get what he is saying. Montezelmo should stfu he always talks out of his arse to the press. And Todt well dont even need to explain that two faced swine!

Ferrari publicly stated they were happy with the FIA's decision to stop the investigation so why go on gass bagging if youre happy?

Bud I see you are still up to your old tricks by blaming everyone else but McLaren. Did you not see Jean Todt 's comments today and I quote
"At the hearing McLaren came with 200 signatures of managers saying they never had access to the information.

"Then, three months later, when the FIA did its verifications, it was demonstrated that was completely false. They went corrupting their own personnel to make them sign false documentation."

Asking 200 of your employees to lie under oath in court.Real classy Bud mate.I really don't know how Ron "The Devil" Dennis can show his face in public never mind be involved at a high level in F1 ever again. McLaren are the biggest , cheating, lying , robbing , cowards in the history of Formula 1.
I would love to have a one on one with him to ask him certain questions as I was a McLaren fanatic Bud until I witnessed the disgraceful treatment of the brilliant and inspiring Fernando Alonso.God bless you FA , your ethics and love of the sport came before chasing more titles and money.If only we had more guys like you in F1

dude mate lassy whatever you like did i not just post a link with the above quote in it? and what is that telling us? has Todt got any proof that these managers were forced to sign a statement under false pretences?
Maybe Ferrari's statement that they were satisfied with the FIA's decision to stop the investigation was a forced document huh? i mean it seams Todt and Monte are still going on blabbing their accusations to the Italian press unhindered. so it seems Ferrari are not satisfied or is it just a last cheap low blow? either way you think they would just STFU after they said they were happy to put an end to the spy saga bar the civil cases huh?
And listen to you Mark youre righteous speach is compelling but in F1 no ones clean not even your Fernando Alonso who i remember was at the heart of the Spy saga.

[darwin dali]

Bud, I think you hit the nail on the head with the phrase 'bar the civil cases'. Ferrari by no means want to give the impression that they won't pursue the civil cases with force just because they agree with the FIA resolution. And why should they? They won't see a cent of the $100m fine for damages plus they still want justice for Stepney and co.
Also, I agree with Mark Hughes: considering his behavior during the affair with the backdrop of a newly signed TRUST agreement between McLaren and Ferrari, the snake RD can't be trusted - he should go and make way for a restoration of McLaren's reputation that he badly damaged.

[bud]

are you missing the point? we arent talking the civil case against Stepney and Coughlan that will be over the crime. we are talking about the sporting point of view where the FIA case on the MP4 23 and the 2008 season on which Ferrari publicly announced they were happy with the FIA's decision to stop the investigation into McLaren with the provisions in place.
So why still question the situation regarding the 2008 season? From what Monte is saying he thinks the McLaren will be a Ferrari copy in which case why did Ferrari say they were happy to stop the investigation? His comments are just another low blow using the press something he and Ferrari have done during this whole affair. Monte is such an arrogant prick with his attacks on the English and Germans.

And whats all this picking on Ron about huh Ron wasnt too bad when he found out about the email traffic between Alonso and Pedro he went straight to Mosely. the way some of you talk is as if Ron was the man behind it all. Youre all pathetic for it!