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[sidepodcast]

regarding Brundle's Sunday Times fightback. the quote that concerns me, that i'm not sure anyone else seems bothered about...

Or they will write to ITV again to say that my commentary is not up to standard

WTF??

why are the FIA writing to ITV offering opinions on their commentators in the first place?
how often have they done this, and who else?
is such a practice even legal under EU law?

more thoughts here:

http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/12/10/m ... the-media/

[bud]

I hope they take on the london times good luck to them, they will need it!

[deMuRe]

Reading between the lines I would say those letters mean "Control your boy or we'll give the television rights to one of your rivals."

[sidepodcast]

Reading between the lines I would say those letters mean "Control your boy or we'll give the television rights to one of your rivals."

which must be illegal, right?

[deMuRe]

Is it?

It's a question of journalistic integrity. The big media networks have thrown this out of the window and realised long ago there's money in politics, so we all get drip fed manufactured dribble to suit the agenda's of the governments.

Why should F1 be any different? Depending on which way you view things, the FIA could be considered as ITV's customer. When a customer is unhappy with the service they are getting they change suppliers.

With Lewis Hamilton being as popular as he is right now I'm sure Channel 5 would relish the opportunity to host the F1 race feeds, they'll probably match ITV's offer as well...

[bud]

Reading between the lines I would say those letters mean "Control your boy or we'll give the television rights to one of your rivals."

in which case Brundle would still be a journo even if ITV lost the rights and in which case his pitt pass would be hard to come by would it not? theres more to it than just ITV its attacking Brundles right to freedom of speech and putting forward what he sees fit! witch which witch which hunt

but demure you ultimately have no issue because it doesnt affect Ferrari you talk and talk that youre a redbull fan or mark webber fan aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi right??? but i rarely see any passion coming from you on anything other than things to do with Ferrari. or anything against McLaren.

s*** McLaren could cure world peace and you would come up with some form of back chat against it.

[sidepodcast]

s*** McLaren could cure world peace and you would come up with some form of back chat against it.

what in the world does this have to do with brundle or the fia?? say bud, your comments are starting to sound like some kind of personal vendetta.

no-one mentioned mclaren, this thread has very little to do with the team (other than martin once was their driver and now he's looking after paffett).

deMuRe, i partly agree with what you're saying, but i don't think ITV will lose F1, they'll sooner lose Brundle, and that is my concern.

[8-ball]

the FIA are not attacking Brundle's freedom of speech they are attacking the fact that he is writing "lies". i am not a lawyer but if brundle can't prove what he is saying then he doesn't have a very strong case

[bud]

s*** McLaren could cure world peace and you would come up with some form of back chat against it.

what in the world does this have to do with brundle or the fia?? say bud, your comments are starting to sound like some kind of personal vendetta.

that has to do with demure obviously personal vandetta hell no im no Max vs McLaren

the FIA are not attacking Brundle's freedom of speech they are attacking the fact that he is writing "lies". i am not a lawyer but if brundle can't prove what he is saying then he doesn't have a very strong case

since when has a journo had to check what he she is writing is factual? my sister is studying to be a journo i might have to ask her about the legal side of the bullpoo that goes into the media

saying that Brundle has every right to have his say on the matter its his job afterall, i cant imagine a world where newspapers werent allowed to critique sporting codes. and with the FIA;s handling of the Renault case think that has just given Brundle all the ammo he needs!

good luck to the FIA taking on Rupert Murdochs empire hopefully the s*** will hit the fan and people will fall out of power in the corrupt FIA

[8-ball]

the FIA are not attacking Brundle's freedom of speech they are attacking the fact that he is writing "lies". i am not a lawyer but if brundle can't prove what he is saying then he doesn't have a very strong case

since when has a journo had to check what he she is writing is factual? my sister is studying to be a journo i might have to ask her about the legal side of the bullpoo that goes into the media

saying that Brundle has every right to have his say on the matter its his job afterall, i cant imagine a world where newspapers werent allowed to critique sporting codes. and with the FIA;s handling of the Renault case think that has just given Brundle all the ammo he needs!

good luck to the FIA taking on Rupert Murdochs empire hopefully the s*** will hit the fan and people will fall out of power in the corrupt FIA

Like i said i am not a lawyer but look at all the celebrities successfully suing over newpaper claims that they had a botox injection. Brundle is saying the FIA is corrupt and favoring ferrari which he cannot prove therefore it is libel.

P.S. Who is the FIA suing Brundle or the Sunday Times because if its the latter they will be chewed up and spat out

[bud]

they are suing the times for publishing his coloumn in which he said witch hunt

but hey im all for this as a court case to prove Brundles comments as factual will probably hurt the FIA more than anything. Their double standards towards Renault and McLaren for the same 151c charge is a disgrace to any one in their right mind.

[McLaren Fan]

Let's face it, it's not as though Brundle is without evidence. For instance, doing McLaren and not Renault, inspecting the new McLaren but not inspecting the new Renault, telling McLaren to correct a few footnotes but allowing Ferrari to conduct a media smear campaign. The list goes on. I'm glad to see the FIA are taking Brundle to court. There, the usual FIA-Ferrari biases won't exist to Brundle will get a fair hearing and expose the FIA for the lying, cheating, biased and hypocritical scum they are.

[deMuRe]

Reading between the lines I would say those letters mean "Control your boy or we'll give the television rights to one of your rivals."

in which case Brundle would still be a journo even if ITV lost the rights and in which case his pitt pass would be hard to come by would it not? theres more to it than just ITV its attacking Brundles right to freedom of speech and putting forward what he sees fit! witch which witch which hunt

but demure you ultimately have no issue because it doesnt affect Ferrari you talk and talk that youre a redbull fan or mark webber fan aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi right??? but i rarely see any passion coming from you on anything other than things to do with Ferrari. or anything against McLaren.

s*** McLaren could cure world peace and you would come up with some form of back chat against it.

No bud, I only fire up when I see the McLaren fans on this forum proclaim their team's total innocence with long winded excuses and one sided arguments.

I used to like McLaren, before they were McCheaters...

[sidepodcast]

but hey im all for this as a court case to prove Brundles comments as factual will probably hurt the FIA more than anything. Their double standards towards Renault and McLaren for the same 151c charge is a disgrace to any one in their right mind.

according to grandprix.com

The most usual defence against libel is to prove that the information published is true. If that is not possible there is the often-used defence of fair comment, which covers opinion which cannot be deemed to be true or false. These comments must be based on fact, made in good faith and published without malice. There is also the defence that it is a matter of public interest.

[7UpJordan]

regarding Brundle's Sunday Times fightback. the quote that concerns me, that i'm not sure anyone else seems bothered about...

Or they will write to ITV again to say that my commentary is not up to standard

WTF??

why are the FIA writing to ITV offering opinions on their commentators in the first place?
how often have they done this, and who else?
is such a practice even legal under EU law?

more thoughts here:

http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/12/10/m ... the-media/

If they were writing to complain about James Allen's commentary it wouldn't be so bad, but the FIA are really starting to act stupid just because someone said they're not doing a good job, they're really getting fickle, and I wouldn't be surprised if Mad Max is behind it all...