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From autosport.com:

By Jonathan Noble Thursday, November 8th 2007, 13:21 GMT

Former world champions Renault have been summoned to appear before a hearing of the FIA World Motor Sport Council next month to answer charges of spying.

With the sport still reeling from McLaren's exclusion from the Constructors' Championship for their involvement in a spying affair with Ferrari this year, Renault now find themselves dragged into a similar controversy.

Renault were dragged into the matter when McLaren investigations into their own spy controversy revealed that a former staff member had taken several CDs worth of data to the Renault team.

McLaren's lawyers duly brought the matter to the attention of the FIA on the eve of their own hearing in September, which prompted the investigation by the sport's governing body. This has resulted in the decision of the FIA to summon Renault representatives.

A statement issued by the FIA on Thursday said: "Representatives of the Renault F1 Team have been requested to appear before a hearing of the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Monaco on Thursday, December 6, 2007.

"The team representatives have been called to answer a charge that between September 2006 and October 2007, in breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code, the Renault F1 Team had unauthorised possession of documents and confidential information belonging to Vodafone McLaren Mercedes, including, but not limited to the layout and critical dimensions of the McLaren F1 car, together with details of the McLaren fuelling system, gear assembly, oil cooling system, hydraulic control system and a novel suspension component used by the 2006 and 2007 McLaren F1 cars."

Renault boss Flavio Briatore told Gazzetta dello Sport in September that he was confident the team would not be found to have done anything wrong, having cooperated fully with the FIA investigation.

"We told the FIA what we had, so there's no problem," said Briatore. "I don't know what Dennis refers to, he's throwing stones a bit everywhere. We are calm, no problem at all."



Well, well, well. Not the first time a team headed up by ole Flavio has been accused of cheating and he has the nerve to criticise McLaren and say the punishment they received was too lenient.

What's worse is the information Renault are alleged to have taken is ten times worse than the measly scraps of details one McLaren employee had.

Hopefully the FIA will deal with this case much more professionally than how they did with McLaren's case, for the good of the sport. Fortunately there aren't too many personal vendettas involved here to Renault stand a better chance of getting a fair hearing.

Finally, should Renault be convicted, will the same people who want Ron Dennis' resignation be calling for the same from Briatore?
By toothe
#23112
we both posted at the same time just i included a link and you included content lol
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By bud
#23115
maybe you two were sharing data? cheaters!!!
By toothe
#23116
lol, i can be mclaren he can be ranault lol
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By texasmr2
#23120
I just hope they can get all this sorted before the the "08 season start's and we can get back to racing.
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By bud
#23123
this is just getting beyond a joke really! this kinda thing has always happened as its been said before i know but why didnt the FIA do this when Toyota had Ferrari info?

they have created a strong precident with the way they went about McLaren and soon i bet every team will have to put their designs forward to the FIA so they can assess whether any teams had copied one another especially with engineer movements.

or they could just erase engineers memories once they leave a team.... im sure Max could find a way to do that!
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By onelapdown
#23124
I'll laugh my head off if it emerges Alonso has anything to do with this...
By toothe
#23125
yeah, alonso goes to mclaren gets the info, sends it back to reanault and goes 1 better by getting some ferrari info as well, goes back to reanault who would kick bottom.
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By onelapdown
#23126
this is just getting beyond a joke really! this kinda thing has always happened as its been said before i know but why didnt the FIA do this when Toyota had Ferrari info?

Now that's what I want to know... why was the theft by Toyota dealt with as a criminal case concerning just those individuals who had stolen information, while McLaren (and it seems Renault) are being sanctioned as a corporation by the World Motorsports Council? Especially in view of Toyota's previous transgressions in rallying in the mid-90s...
By toothe
#23127
yeah and i bet reanault dont get fined. it seems they had much more info about mclaren that mclaren did about ferrari.
By manbearpig
#23133
This has to strengthen the Alonso to Red Bull rumors. Renault could be in a heap of s***.
By toothe
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50 million quid fine is the standard set, recon reanualt might counter claim against ferrari. lol
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By bud
#23137
Renault will be on the grid next year and with the money they get from the sponsors willing to back Alonso im sure they could pay any fine offsetted by the money they made in the championship this year

if Renault get kicked out of the 07 championship like McLaren did this would be good news for WilliamsF1 they would have finished 3rd :)
By toothe
#23141
yeah not bad for a team who had the 5th most points :p
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By f1usa
#23155
This is all about finding a way to make Ferrari the 2008 constructor champions, before first race in Australia.

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