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[Fact Man]

As we all know right now, McLaren wants to appeal the decision related to the fuel incident in Brazil.
This whole season they claimed to have higher moral values compared to their main rival Ferrari.
Yet, here they are appealing the stewards decision after things are over and anyone who supports that decision is in my opinion a loser

I have never liked ferrari and I tend to support ML. But things have changed now. I still don't like FA but I think that ML sunk even lower with this decision (people, don't get mad at me, that's my opinion). RD and ML just proved how pathetic and a bunch of losers they are

Also, they even have the decency to claim that they are doing it for their fans:
"SAO PAULO (Reuters) - McLaren owed it to their fans and drivers to open appeal proceedings against the outcome of Sunday's title-deciding Brazilian Grand Prix, the team said on Monday".

If ML wants fairness in F1, how about if Ferrari and BMW and other teams appeal the stewards decision over the tires issue during qualis. Also, how about Ferrari files a complaint over the Hamilton-Raikkonen incident during quali that slowed KR a little bit. I was so surprised that Ferrari decided no to appeal (knowing how Ferrari is). I thought it was the right thing to do and applauded their good intentions but now I feel that they should have done it.

McLaren has no one but themselves to blame for this season. Yes, the FIA is biased towards Ferrari but the less reasons you give them to punish you, the more you can succeed. Instead RD, in my opinion, has failed in managing his team properly and now they are using the same old tricks that ferrari used to use in order to win. I don't want to support a team that goes that route.

The season ended on Sunday with Kimi as WDC. It should be left at that. As F1 fans we appeal to McLaren to drop this matter and move one.

PS,
If you got offended by what I said, it was not my intentions. I was only expressing my "opinion".

[kezza7]

The season ended on Sunday with Kimi as WDC. It should be left at that. As F1 fans we appeal to McLaren to drop this matter and move one.

i only read that bit but i agree

[phil]

The season ended on Sunday with Kimi as WDC. It should be left at that. As F1 fans we appeal to McLaren to drop this matter and move one.

i only read that bit but i agree

cannot agree more

[ArtHowe]

I disagree.

[Freddie]

Well, if everybody else - especially Ferrari - plays this game all the time then they have to go along. There are simply too many rules in F1, drop 90% of them and let the guy who wins on the track be the winner. Everything else should be settled outside - there should be no possible sanctions to the race results or any points already given. In soccer you cannot cancel a goal which was given by the referee after the match.

This stupid crap makes me sick, I am really considering dropping F1

[pit_babe]

Their has seriously been too much court room drama and mud slinging this year, McLaren should let it rest.

[pussycat]

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As we all know right now, McLaren wants to appeal the decision related to the fuel incident in Brazil.
This whole season they claimed to have higher moral values compared to their main rival Ferrari.
Yet, here they are appealing the stewards decision after things are over and anyone who supports that decision is in my opinion a loser

I have never liked ferrari and I tend to support ML. But things have changed now. I still don't like FA but I think that ML sunk even lower with this decision (people, don't get mad at me, that's my opinion). RD and ML just proved how pathetic and a bunch of losers they are

Also, they even have the decency to claim that they are doing it for their fans:
"SAO PAULO (Reuters) - McLaren owed it to their fans and drivers to open appeal proceedings against the outcome of Sunday's title-deciding Brazilian Grand Prix, the team said on Monday".

If ML wants fairness in F1, how about if Ferrari and BMW and other teams appeal the stewards decision over the tires issue during qualis. Also, how about Ferrari files a complaint over the Hamilton-Raikkonen incident during quali that slowed KR a little bit. I was so surprised that Ferrari decided no to appeal (knowing how Ferrari is). I thought it was the right thing to do and applauded their good intentions but now I feel that they should have done it.

McLaren has no one but themselves to blame for this season. Yes, the FIA is biased towards Ferrari but the less reasons you give them to punish you, the more you can succeed. Instead RD, in my opinion, has failed in managing his team properly and now they are using the same old tricks that ferrari used to use in order to win. I don't want to support a team that goes that route.

The season ended on Sunday with Kimi as WDC. It should be left at that. As F1 fans we appeal to McLaren to drop this matter and move one.

PS,
If you got offended by what I said, it was not my intentions. I was only expressing my "opinion".

well your opinion stinks!!! If this had happened to the Ferrari team then they definatly would have appealed. Whats more MM would have backed them all the way. Kimi did a great job but would things have went their way if LH s car didnt have a problem? Look what happened last year in GP2.We will never know but RD still had a right to appeal. Why the witch hunt? No dont say anything im sick of hearing how everything is RDs fault and Ferrari & MM are just perfect. Maybe we should just ask MM who wins next year and save a lot of time and trouble. Come on Lewis!! Next year bring it home and stuff all the Ferrari lovers.

[texasmr2]

Well your opinion stinks!!!

As does your closed mindedness!

If this had happened to the Ferrari team then they definatly would have appealed. Whats more MM would have backed them all the way. Kimi did a great job but would things have went their way if LH s car didnt have a problem? Look what happened last year in GP2.We will never know but RD still had a right to appeal. Why the witch hunt? No dont say anything im sick of hearing how everything is RDs fault and Ferrari & MM are just perfect. Maybe we should just ask MM who wins next year and save a lot of time and trouble. Come on Lewis!! Next year bring it home and stuff all the Ferrari lovers.

That's very funny ! 90+% of the team hating that is posted on this furum is from the McLaren camp toward's Ferrari and not the other way around. Yah Ferrari is my team and has been for almost three decade's but you dont see me playing the blame game do you! I am by no mean's a McLaren hater either so dont even try to travel that route .

This has really become the biggest downside of this forum, poster's such as yourself.

[darwin dali]

Well, if everybody else - especially Ferrari - plays this game all the time then they have to go along. There are simply too many rules in F1, drop 90% of them and let the guy who wins on the track be the winner. Everything else should be settled outside - there should be no possible sanctions to the race results or any points already given. In soccer you cannot cancel a goal which was given by the referee after the match.

This stupid crap makes me sick, I am really considering dropping F1

That's not entirely true: you can get sanctioned in soccer for fouls that the referees didn't see, but got picked up by TV cameras, long after the game is over.
Anyway, your suggestion of the winner on track should be the winner of the race would open F1 to a wild west mentality where there will be no prisoners taken - how do you suppose rule infractions should be dealt with? I think I'd prefer a Greco-Roman style wrestling match over a cage fight.

[bud]

seeing as the Williams and Saubers had fuel irregularites with no punishment McLaren after all the s*** that they have been put through this year should appeal, whats good for the goose is good for the gander! only question is whos the goose? haha

but im with Lewis and Fernando on this one i think the results should stand personally!

[bmwpower]

LH had said he wants to win on the track and not on an appeal. He said Kim deserved his the Championship because he drove superb the last two races and he doesn't want to take it away from Kimi based

LH said winning on appeal "would feel weird after Kimi did such a fantastic job in the last two races."

"He won yesterday and to have it taken away is a bit cruel and probably not good for the sport," Hamilton added.

Hamilton continued: "For me, I want to win it on the track.
Being promoted after some people have been thrown out is not the way I want to do it."

Like I said before the last race, a BMW will decide the Championship, now you can add Williams.

McLaren should just close the door on 2007 and just move on to 2008.

[raithrover]

Yes, time to move on. A financial fine would do. We don't want F1 to become the joke that the Olympics is, when they strip title winners year's later.

Let Kimi enjoy his title.

[Woodchip]

Yes, time to move on. A financial fine would do. We don't want F1 to become the joke that the Olympics is, when they strip title winners year's later.

Let Kimi enjoy his title.

Well said

[ArtHowe]

If this had happened to the Ferrari team then they definatly would have appealed. Whats more MM would have backed them all the way. Kimi did a great job

I agree 100% Pussycat.

[ArtHowe]

We don't want F1 to become the joke that the Olympics is, when they strip title winners year's later.

It's a bit late in this soap opera season to worry about F1 becoming a joke! And what's wrong with stripping a self confessed drug abuser of an Olympic title for using steroids? How long should the "statute of limitations" be Raithrover?