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Stewart eyes legal action against Mosley

By Mark Glendenning and Dieter Rencken Tuesday, October 9th 2007, 08:49 GMT

Jackie StewartJackie Stewart is considering legal action against FIA president Max Mosley following remarks attributed to the FIA President in the British media last week.

Mosley reportedly described Stewart as a "certified half-wit" while at a lunch with journalists. He dismissed Stewart's criticism of the record US$100 million dollar fine dealt to McLaren in the F1 spy case, the president saying that nobody in Formula One took the Scot's opinions seriously.

"That [legal] option is still very open," Stewart told autosport.com in Shanghai. "My lawyers advised me that I have every right to do so, and that's an option that I am able to take up. We're in communication - I'm not personally, but my lawyers are in communication with Mr Mosley."

Stewart also said that he was disappointed to see such remarks coming from someone in Mosley's position, and claimed that it was unbecoming of the sport.

"I think it was very wrong for Max to do what he did, because it's unbecoming for the president of the body that governs this sport to be speaking in such a fashion," he said.

"I don't think you would see the chairman of the Olympic movement saying such a thing. And that of course is much higher than Max, but nevertheless it is an international organisation.

"I think it was an act of misjudgement by him, but he must have been very upset - for no apparent reason, because any criticisms that I have made are no different from many other people aired with respect to the severity of the penalty of the McLaren thing, and the manner in which the case came together.

"So I think I was observing and I have the privilege of doing that as an individual opinion, but he obviously is not used to people questioning some of his judgements. And in this particular case I didn't do it against Max Mosley, it was just my opinion of the whole business that took place.

"But I think it is unfortunate that he behaved in the fashion that he has. It is libellous, and I think that's really all I can say."

Mosley's comments have drawn condemnation from other quarters, including 1996 world champion Damon Hill, who made his feelings clear in a letter to Autosport magazine this week.

"It is well known that Sir Jackie is dyslexic and has struggles (as many thousands do) to cope with the all too easily made judgement that they are less intelligent than 'ordinary' folk," Hill wrote.

"This is in fact more often than not quite the opposite, and many dyslexic people are highly intelligent and extraordinarily gifted, as I believe is the case with Sir Jackie.

"To call him therefore a 'certified halfwit' would be on the first level unkind, but on another level, indeed the level at which Mr Mosley would like us to understand he operates on, is nothing other than a wicked joke designed to visit the utmost humiliation on its victim.

"Regardless or not of whether he was alluding to his dyslexia, what he said was a gross insult to one of the sport's leading figures over the last four decades and a thrice world champion.

"Not only is it bad manners, it also calls into question the character and judgment of the man who represents motor sport throughout the world through the august institution of the FIA.

"It is conduct most unbecoming of an FIA president and, in my humble view, brought the sport into disrepute, a crime he seems so keen to eradicate."

Mosley stands by his Stewart criticism

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By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, October 9th 2007, 08:54 GMT

Max MosleyFIA president Max Mosley says he is standing by his criticism of former world champion Jackie Stewart, despite possible threat of legal action by Stewart himself.

Mosley ridiculed Stewart in a recent meeting with British newspaper journalists, the FIA president describing the former world champion as "a figure of fun" and a "certified halfwit".

Stewart himself said in Shanghai last weekend that he is considering legal action against Mosley.

But speaking to autosport.com, the FIA president has insisted that the Scot's criticism of the governing body's actions were unjustified and he has refused to apologise for his remarks.

"Some members of the British motor sport establishment consider Jackie Stewart to be a national treasure," said Mosley. "I have known Jackie for almost forty years, and understand their view, but they must forgive me if I do not share it.

"The comments Jackie repeatedly made to a global television audience before and after the recent hearings into the McLaren Affair were ill informed and entirely misrepresented the World Council's position.

"Jackie claimed the World Council were 'witch hunting' against McLaren. A witch hunt is the irrational and unjustified persecution of the innocent. To make this and other unfounded and partisan accusations without viewing any of the evidence was not only inept but thoroughly irresponsible. Such comments could do nothing but damage to the sport.

"I have no apology to make for having said as much publicly and I am more than happy to repeat this view about him now and in the future."

Mosley accepted that his comments about Stewart may not have gone down well in certain quarters, but he was adamant that his job as FIA president was not for him to be universally liked by everyone in the sport.

"Of course criticising the pronouncements, however misconceived, of a much loved former World Champion is unpopular in some quarters," he said.

"I can only reaffirm the obvious fact that it is not my job to be loved and never will be. Sanctioning a team as prestigious as McLaren for bringing the sport into disrepute is not one I, nor indeed any member of the World Council relished, but we will never shrink from our responsibility to do so if required.

"The suggestions that my original comments were an implied criticism of anyone other than Jackie himself are complete nonsense and unworthy of those who have sought to make them."


A very poor explanation from Mosley. Yes, his job is not to be liked, however, he is meant to be professional. He was totally amateur in his very offensive remarks. The FIA are already up to their neck in corruption, but in a better organisation he would be fired.
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By racechick
#17171
He should be fired. He is rude and arrogant. He may disagree with Jackie's comments but that does not entitle him to make personal and abusive insults to a three time world champion. Jackie has obviously crosed him sometime in the past as has Ron Dennis. What disgusting behaviour.
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By 7UpJordan
#17176
I think that was uncalled for from MacMoseley.
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By saz17
#17179
"The suggestions that my original comments were an implied criticism of anyone other than Jackie himself are complete nonsense and unworthy of those who have sought to make them."


bloody hell, if his only way of criticising another human being is by name calling ("half witt") then i sugget he takes up another job. A man in his position should be seen to be diplomatic and level headed.

Playground name calling from a man in as higher position as him is disgraceful, fair enough disagree with someones opinions and make it clear you do not share their views, by giving an intelligent and sensible reason, but resorting to name calling imho normally means someone has hit a nerve.

Grow up or get out!!
By yowl
#17526
Seriously though would anybody expect anything else from Oswald Mosley's son? I'm just glad he didn';t send blackshirts round to beat JYS and DH.
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By madbrad
#17527
Update: Max is a Jacka$$ who needs to be shot and pi$$ed on.

If I were Jackie, forget the courts, just send the BRDC goon squad to his house and present a bone crushing argument.
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By mudd
#17534
He should be fired. He is rude and arrogant. He may disagree with Jackie's comments but that does not entitle him to make personal and abusive insults to a three time world champion. Jackie has obviously crosed him sometime in the past as has Ron Dennis. What disgusting behaviour.


Spot on.
By Lewisfan
#17624
A real British Gentleman

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Sir Jackie Stewart, when he first won WDC with team Matra,

Sir Jackie Stewart won three WDC 1969,1971,1973


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Someone Britain can be proud of

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By Lewisfan
#17628
In my opinion the best Grand Prix driver ever. Never won a WDC. Sir Strirling Moss, he had Union Jack in his blood. Next Great British Gentleman.

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Moss: Fact File

Full Name: Stirling Craufurd Moss

Birthday: 17 September 1929

Marital Status: Married to wife Susie

Home: London

Nationality: British

Championship Wins: 0

Grand Prix Wins: 66

First Grand Prix Win: British Grand Prix at Aintree, 1955

BBC Sports Personality of the Year: 1961

Honours: OBE (1959), Knighted (2000)

Fun Fact: Moss appeared in the original 1967 version of Casino Royale as a driver (uncredited)

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There is no doubt that Stirling Crauford Moss was the greatest driver never to win the World Championship.

Where his friend, mentor and arch-rival Juan-Manuel Fangio excelled in Grand Prix racing, Moss was a brilliantly versatile all-rounder who could perform as well in grueling sportscar events such as Le Mans, the Targa Florio or the Tourist Trophy as he did in Formula One. His dramatic victory for Mercedes-Benz in the 1955 Mille Miglia endurance race across Italy owed much to detailed route planning, but his innate ability was the predominant factor.

Moss's father Alfred, a dentist, had dabbled with racing, and his son began to follow suit in 1947. He made his name in the tough Formula 500 (the forerunner of F3), before winning the Tourist Trophy in 1950 in a private Jaguar XK120. After that he was asked to handle a variety of cars, and his strong sense of patriotism kept him largely in British machinery. It was not until 1954 that he bit the bullet and purchased a Maserati 250F to try to progress his F1 career. That led to an invitation to join the Mercedes-Benz works team alongside Fangio, and thereafter to leadership of Tony Vandervell's Vanwall team. In the latter, Moss was instrumental in breaking the German/Italian stranglehold on F1. Later would come further triumphs in Cooper and Lotus machinery, for privateer Rob Walker.

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For Moss the manner in which the battle was fought was as important as the outcome, and this sporting attitude cost him the 1958 World Championship when he stood up for rival Mike Hawthorn, who faced a penalty in Portugal that would, in retrospect, have denied him the points that he needed to beat Moss. Stirling never for one moment entertained any thought of gaining an advantage in such a way, and in any case his natural sense of justice would not have allowed him to see Hawthorn unjustly penalized. So he stepped forward to defend him. Hawthorn subsequently went on to beat Moss by a mere point, even though he had only won one race that year to Moss's four. It was sufficient to make Mike Hawthorn Britain's first World Champion.

Moss's active career in top line competition ended when his Lotus left the road at Goodwood at Easter 1962, and he received serious head in juries. That left a twofold postscript to a fabulous career. What might he have achieved had he not stuck so religiously to driving British cars, or if he had accepted more offers of full factory drives instead of sticking so resolutely with Walker?

And what might the future have held had he not felt obliged to rush his recovery, and been discouraged when his initial trials made him doubt that the old flair was intact?


http://www.stirlingmoss.com
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By Lewisfan
#17705
Great News, Sir Jackie Stewart is taking that lowlife Mad-max to court I hope he wins.
By Ron Dennis
#17709
me too, and that MM is fine $100,000,000

he's a wker!
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By cap-dude
#17728
Gilled Villeneuve is easily the greatest driver never to win a title.
Just watch what he could do in a car, and i'm sure anyones opinion would at least be a bit different
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By racechick
#17756
Great News, Sir Jackie Stewart is taking that lowlife Mad-max to court I hope he wins.

Excellent!! good for him. I hope he beats the little toerag too :D
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By deMuRe
#17770
JS is always opening his mouth to the camera's looking for another 15 mins of fame.

He stirred the pot with emotional babble and Max was always going to say something. It's natural all the McLaren fans are calling for Max's head, they are disappointed with their own team for dipping their hand into the cookie jar.

You'll all get over it, eventually, LoL...
By ImYourDaddy
#17778
[quote="Lewisfan"][b]A real British Gentleman[/b]

[img]http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8646/jackiestewartf1championpm0.png[/img]

[b]Sir Jackie Stewart, when he first won WDC with team Matra,

Sir Jackie Stewart won three WDC 1969,1971,1973[/b]

[img]http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6193/jackiestewartf1championlt3.png[/img]

[b]Someone Britain can be proud of[/b]

[img]http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4525/unionjackgj0.gif[/img][/quote]



Oh, so sweeeeet

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