FORUMula1.com - F1 Forum

[Ruby]

I just have a question for those who are more clued up technically than I am on most things (so that's all of you then ):

With Ferrari saying they didn't get the email about full wets etc, and lots of people have said they were lying - would they have had an advantage over everyone else with the intermediates they had on in the first place?? I mean, why bother lying about receiving the tyre instruction if the tyres the FIA suggested were more suited to the crappy weather anyway?

Thanks

[texasmr2]

I dont think they would have had an advantage because during qualifying Kimi and Massa were constantly going off course while on intermediate's.

[britishtrident]

I just have a question for those who are more clued up technically than I am on most things (so that's all of you then ):

With Ferrari saying they didn't get the email about full wets etc, and lots of people have said they were lying - would they have had an advantage over everyone else with the intermediates they had on in the first place?? I mean, why bother lying about receiving the tyre instruction if the tyres the FIA suggested were more suited to the crappy weather anyway?

Thanks

Ferrari claim the email arrived exactly 1 hour (eg exactly 60 minutes) after the other teams got it ----- If I were investigating it because of the exactness of the delay I would suspect tampering with time stamps or computer clocks.


As to tyre choice Ferrari were taking a gamble on the weather improving

[Ruby]

As to tyre choice Ferrari were taking a gamble on the weather improving

So you think Ferrari thought the weather would be ok and therefore would end up on an advantage over everyone else as they were the only ones with intermediates? Hmmmm. That's a big gamble though, if it is the case it's a terrible decision!

Thanks

[ArtHowe]

As far as I can see it was a badly calculated move by Todt to put one over on the rest of the field. They were betting that conditions would rapidly improve. As it happens, they didn't, so Ferrari would have to have brought in their drivers for a tyre change anyway, ergo they were penalised by their own stupidity, not by the stewards or the FIA. Ferrari cynically sent their drivers out on inappropriate tyres, not only endangering their drivers but also every other driver on the track, a point conveniently overlooked by the FIA and all the Ferrari afficionados on this forum, who delight in getting their knickers in a twist about Hamilton "brake-dancing", whatever that's supposed to signify.

[McLaren Fan]

Ferrari, once again, tried to side-step the rules and were caught. However, the deed went unpunished. If McLaren did that year, or Renault in 2005 and 2006, there would have been punishments. It's one rule for Ferrari and another rule for the rest.

[Ruby]

As far as I can see it was a badly calculated move by Todt to put one over on the rest of the field. They were betting that conditions would rapidly improve.

You'd think though with all the up to date weather technology these days they wouldn't have to 'bet' on anything!

[ArtHowe]

Desperate people make desperate bets.

[Cillit Bang]

If they were planning to take a gamble, why not just take the gamble with one car? They ended up having both cars at the back, which was pointless.

[ArtHowe]

If they were planning to take a gamble, why not just take the gamble with one car? They ended up having both cars at the back, which was pointless.

Do you have a viable alternative hypothesis about why a constructor would send both their cars out, in the peeing rain, on intermediates? Intermediates for God's sake, not even wets. Todt has lost the plot, what other answer could there be?

[texasmr2]

I dont understand there tire decision either.

[pit_babe]

Ferrari, once again, tried to side-step the rules and were caught. However, the deed went unpunished. If McLaren did that year, or Renault in 2005 and 2006, there would have been punishments. It's one rule for Ferrari and another rule for the rest.

There allways has been and as long as uncle max is in control allways will be one rule for ferrari another for everyone else

[ArtHowe]

If they hadn't received the email, a reasonable decision would have been to send the cars out on normal wets. They used intermediates, so the only possible conclusions a sane person can arrive at is that Todt was ignoring the email, knowing that his IT people could postdate the time of receipt if they were caught (thus giving Mad Max an excuse to back them up) or that Todt is clinically insane. As I said earlier, they not only endangered their own drivers, but every other driver on the track by their desperate dice throwing.

I'm sure Ross Brawn is watching all this and, if he has an ounce of decency, he will decline Ferrari management's inevitable pleas for him to deliver them from their currently parlous state at the hands of the poison dwarf.

[texasmr2]

If they hadn't received the email, a reasonable decision would have been to send the cars out on normal wets. They used intermediates, so the only possible conclusions a sane person can arrive at is that Todt was ignoring the email, knowing that his IT people could postdate the time of receipt if they were caught (thus giving Mad Max an excuse to back them up) or that Todt is clinically insane. As I said earlier, they not only endangered their own drivers, but every other driver on the track by their desperate dice throwing.

I'm sure Ross Brawn is watching all this and, if he has an ounce of decency, he will decline Ferrari management's inevitable pleas for him to deliver them from their currently parlous state at the hands of the poison dwarf.

Absolute rubbish!!

[cap-dude]

No no no.
The FIA actually have come out and admitted that it was there fault, the email was delayed.

Both McLaren and Renault i believe nearly missed the e-mail to, they only just got it by luck.