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[Fact Man]

I guess the best way to avoid any cheating from now on is to have ferrari go over the technology of every team. If they find a team that has technology that might give them an edge, ferrari should ban that technology but be allowed to use it themselves. I don't see any other way around it. Let's face it: no one is allowed to be better than ferrari. Renault beat them twice and the FIA tried hard to find something to implicate renault. Ferrari executives are honest and hard working. So they should have the right to win and beat the other team. I have a better idea, why not limit the power in other teams cars this way ferrari can always win because they have more power. The Ferrari Spin Machine!

[McLaren Fan]

I guess the best way to avoid any cheating from now on is to have ferrari go over the technology of every team. If they find a team that has technology that might give them an edge, ferrari should ban that technology but be allowed to use it themselves. I don't see any other way around it. Let's face it: no one is allowed to be better than ferrari. Renault beat them twice and the FIA tried hard to find something to implicate renault. Ferrari executives are honest and hard working. So they should have the right to win and beat the other team. I have a better idea, why not limit the power in other teams cars this way ferrari can always win because they have more power. The Ferrari Spin Machine!

Fantastic post. My only criticism is the amount of FIA corruption incidents which you have left out!

[Fact Man]

Yeh I agree but I was only focusing on Ferrari. After all what is the difference between Ferrari and FIA?

[Fact Man]

What I don't understand about his whole incident is why did Stepney do it (if he did it)?
Here you have a top engineer who has been working at ferrari for years risking his career and even going to jail for what. Is it money and greed, I don't think so. Aslo, what about the white powder? I mean he's an engineer and he must have heard of forensic science. So if he committed the crime, he should get rid of any evidence, yet the powder was found in his pockets! Again it doesn't make sense to leave evidence especially after the case broke open. So if he didn't commit the crime (which doesn't make sense), than maybe he was set up but why and by whom? Maybe he got tired of all the s*** that has been happening at ferrari for all these years and decided to get back at them. But why go to McLaren when he can go to the FIA, police or the media! Why didn't he get rid of evidence of the powder if he was the one who did it? I'm starting to believe that there is something else to this case, things don't add up. Did Stepney uncover drug smuggling operations at ferrari and as he was ready to blow up the lid on it, ferrari accused him, framed him with the white powder. Did anyone find out what the poweder was, I didn't! Also, it could be that ferrari pushed him to the point of betrayal in order to frame him and McLaren into this whole scandal. And why things started to change at ferrari around the time MS showed up in the pits. Is ferrari planning for a MS come back, a revival of the champ. I mean who benefits the most from this whole thing. Suddenly, when MS shows up at the tracks ferrari's cars slow down, Kimi isn't dowing that well, the white powder, the stolen 780 page dossier, and accusation that mclaren are cheating and recently the new "evidence" that McL drivers knew about the dossier. One person benefits and that's MS. This shows that Kimi doesn't live up to his price tag, McL might get penalized along with its drivers and even banned. Here you have it, it's the perfect time for MS to come back.

[darwin dali]

You hit it on the nail, yessssss

[Selcouth_Feline]

Did anyone find out what the poweder was, I didn't!

There are some reports that it was detergent. Surely detergent is soluble, so why didn't he wash his trousers?!

[8-ball]

I guess the best way to avoid any cheating from now on is to have ferrari go over the technology of every team. If they find a team that has technology that might give them an edge, ferrari should ban that technology but be allowed to use it themselves. I don't see any other way around it. Let's face it: no one is allowed to be better than ferrari. Renault beat them twice and the FIA tried hard to find something to implicate renault. Ferrari executives are honest and hard working. So they should have the right to win and beat the other team. I have a better idea, why not limit the power in other teams cars this way ferrari can always win because they have more power. The Ferrari Spin Machine!

lol that's a good post! but look at this from ferrari's POV they have spent years trying to be the best during the 1990's and now they are finally one of the dominant teams they could have their technology (the one that propelled schumi to 5 titles in a row) possibly used by another team to beat them!

I know the majority of people on this board are anti ferrari but i will try to remain objective.

* man with gun to my head now leaves after i have posted this *

[certom]

it WAS an objective forum, then lots of "mclaren fans" (i would say..."anti-Ferrari fans") arrived

the difference between formula 1 and soccer is that we sipport a team, in soccer the fans want to kill the other teams...but here seems that this doesnt happen...

anyway...Mclaren has broken sports and legal laws, but it looks that Ferrari is guilty because they want justice.............quite funny huh?

[Fact Man]

Things are only objective when you are surrounded by like minds. Anyway, Michael will be back, which would be a sad day for F1! If McL is punished with the drivers and ferrari wins this year, we can say that F1 is finished for a lot of fans (not only McL ones).

[racechick]

I dont support Mclaren. I support the driver i like best at the time. At the moment he drives for Mclaren and i think Mclaren are being treated unfairly. In the past I have supported drivers in Williams McLaren and also Ferrari , I would struggle to ever support Ferrari ever again, which is such a shame. Michael is the hub of it all, Ferrari were sullied by him and you are right it will be a very sad day if he returns.If Ferrari win this year by tricks off the track I will never watch again, and i already have next years Silverstone ticket purchased

[darwin dali]

What a load of drivel!
Sit on it and swivel!

[racechick]

Drivel? well we'll see on Thursday

[certom]

as i said...Ferrari here shines as the bad kid who would like to spoil this championship just becuase of......justice!
it looks like the good old british can't be touched by any legal decisions, so, let's accept every sentence...


So, starting from 2008, there will be a socialist revolution in formula 1, every team will have everything in common with the others, there will be no private properties, everyone will know everything, becuase...where's the matter, right?

hey DD let's bet...in case of a sentence against Mclaren (but this will never happen on this world), all the mclaren fans will say "i will never watch f1" "F1=Ferrari #1" "FIA=mafia" and bullshits like these... why simply do not accept the sentence with some of that british pride?

[McLaren Fan]

as i said...Ferrari here shines as the bad kid who would like to spoil this championship just becuase of......justice!
it looks like the good old british can't be touched by any legal decisions, so, let's accept every sentence...

So, starting from 2008, there will be a socialist revolution in formula 1, every team will have everything in common with the others, there will be no private properties, everyone will know everything, becuase...where's the matter, right?

hey DD let's bet...in case of a sentence against Mclaren (but this will never happen on this world), all the mclaren fans will say "i will never watch f1" "F1=Ferrari #1" "FIA=mafia" and bullshits like these... why simply do not accept the sentence with some of that british pride?

It's got nothing to do with British pride. Whenever I criticised Ferrari and the FIA last year for their actions against Renault, was that was my French pride coming through?

The situation we have at the moment is a team being victimised by the authorities. It doesn't matter whether the team are from Britain, Italy, France or Timbuktu, what is happening is wrong.

[racechick]

Why isnt Stepney(and therefore Ferrari) on trial? You seem unable to answer this question.