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Team bosses unite against new qualifying system (from motorsport.com)

Eric Boullier – McLaren

"It's true that there were discussions between the teams, and the team managers clearly spotted the fact that Q3 would not work, but we are not the governing body.

"Technically you only need a couple of days to change whatever you want, you just need to have a sort of E-vote, by fax or by email, and obviously the F1 Commission members can give their opinion.

"I think if everybody agrees it should be unanimous and it could be done. Obviously I don't know if it will be unanimous. If some people want to give a chance to this qualifying format there won't be unanimity, and we can't change anything."

Christian Horner – Red Bull Racing

"I think firstly we should apologise to the fans and the viewers because that's not what qualifying should be, it should crescendo into something.

"The intentions were well meaning but we have to accept that it hasn't worked, we got it wrong, and we should address it very quickly.

"My personal view is that we should go back to what we had in time for the next race, because what we saw today is not good for F1.

"Qualifying should build up to a crescendo, and everybody bolts their last set of tyres in the last couple of minutes, and you see what you've got.

"We just have to accept, we got it wrong, but react quickly, and change quickly. I think we have to hold our hands up and say we got it absolutely wrong. It was done for the promoters, to try to give them a better show, and I can't see that we've done that.

"I'd be amazed if anyone didn't agree. We have it a go, it didn't work, let's sort it out for Bahrain."
Claire Williams – Williams

"I think there are issues, I think we always thought there probably would be in the first round.

"I think we need to go away and have a look at it before deciding what we want to do. Whether that's just playing around with the format we've got or reverting back, it's too early to say. But it was not great to see no cars go out in the last five minutes of Q3."

Pat Symonds – Williams

"Personally I don't think we should base things on a sample of one. We've seen one. And we can see what's wrong with it.

"The thing that is most wrong with it is the last few minutes of Q3. So if it was up to me – which it isn't – I would keep the format for Q1 and for Q2, because I do believe that, over the year, you'll get the odd person out of position which is always good for the race.

"But, so that qualifying doesn't become a means to an end, I'd probably put the old Q3 back. I wouldn't necessarily go back to where we were."

Cyril Abiteboul – Renault

"I think we should not overreact. I think we need to look a little bit into it.

"One thing is sure is that Q3 doesn't work, that's obvious. Some clever guys said that in advance that Q3 would not work. So maybe there is an intermediate way which is to keep Q1 and Q2, which frankly from inside was really exciting.

"It's a sport that's living, we do some mistakes, we need to come back, so let's see. I am sure that's it's fairly easy to get a vote before Bahrain to modify one element, and that's Q3.

"I am sure that everyone will agree to change Q3, but I don't think we should immediately go back to the old system. I think we need to filter a little bit the emotion."

Otmar Szafnauer – Force India

"My initial thought was that Q1 and Q2 worked okay, and Q3, just change it back to what we used to have.

"We talked about a hybrid system before, but for whatever reason, it didn't go through. But now to me anyway that's the best thing to do.

"We do fax votes and all sorts of stuff, if you really want it to happen, you can get it through. It's going to take a bit of time, but Q3, it's got to change."

Toto Wolff – Mercedes

"I think we got it wrong.

"We had a qualifying format that was pretty much okay. In order to spice things up this is where we ended up.

"There is the obvious choice – which is to return to what we had before. It is in the regulations.

"If we were to reinvent a different format we need to think carefully about what it should be. We shouldn't close our eyes to trying to make the spectacle better – that is important. But it should be a thought through process."

Gunther Steiner - Haas

"I think the easiest way to do it is to go back to the old format before we try something else and make a similar mistake.

"It's hard to make an argument not to change it at this point. We are not doing this for us. We are doing it for the fans and that's what we want to engage.

"We are trying to make the sport better. This is not a battle of a million or two. This is about to make the sport attractive for all of us."
#439603
The drivers aren't all that happy, either...

Jonathan Noble wrote:">Drivers against new F1 qualifying system

Formula 1's uncertain situation over its qualifying format took a fresh turn on Wednesday when drivers spoke out against plans to introduce an elimination system in a meeting with F1 race director Charlie Whiting.

As part of a wider plan to consult drivers more about F1's rules, Whiting summoned those present at the test to a gathering on Wednesday evening.

Behind closed doors in the FIA motorhome, Whiting met with several drivers – including Kimi Raikkonen, Sebastian Vettel, Nico Rosberg, Felipe Massa and Sergio Perez – to discuss a host of matters including the new qualifying session.

The discussions appeared to be quite heated at times and afterwards Perez told Sky that there was clear opposition from drivers about proposals to change qualifying.

"We are obviously not very happy with the new plans they want to implement," Perez said. "Let's see if they can change it.

"We felt that it could be very complicated for the fans to understand - it's complicated for us already.

"We also felt that qualifying is really good at the moment and there is no reason to change that."

Opinion only

Renault's Kevin Magnussen admitted that it was far from ideal that F1 drivers and teams were preparing for the new season without knowing what the qualifying format would be.

However, he was well aware that while the drivers were the main stars, they have no official say in what happened with the rules.

"Yeah, obviously it would be better to know, and easier to prepare," he said, when asked by Motorsport.com.

"Let's see what happens. We give our opinion, but it is not up to us to decide."

F1 confusion

Just one week after the plans for an elimination system of qualifying were agreed by teams and F1 chiefs, the situation has been plunged into uncertainty.

First, Bernie Ecclestone said the idea would have to be delayed until the Spanish Grand Prix because his own FOM company was unable to prepare timekeeping systems in time.

In the meantime, F1 team managers agreed a tweak to keep the knock out system in place for Q1 and Q2, but retain the original all-cars-on-track element for Q3 – albeit with eight cars.

However, as that change required a rewording of the regulations, under F1's governance procedures, for it to come into force will in theory require a fresh vote from the Strategy Group and F1 Commission.

Because of the time frame involved, unanimous approval among teams will be required, something that may not now be possible.

Despite Ferrari having approved the elimination qualifying idea last week, its president Sergio Marchionne suggested on Tuesday that he was now not in favour.

With the FIA's World Motor Sport Council meeting on Friday, time is running out for the paperwork to be sorted to get the qualifying system changed.

#439604
Thought I'd post this...

 wrote:">Deciding the grid - A history of F1 qualifying formats

The advent of a new qualifying format for 2016 is just the latest in a long line of methods that have been used to determine the starting grid in Formula One racing. On the eve of the season-opening Australian Grand Prix, we look back on how the fight for Grand Prix pole has morphed over the decades...

The two-session format, 1950-1996Image

The one-hour shootout, 1996-2002 Image

One-lap qualifying, 2003Image

Saturdays only, 2004Image

Aggregated qualifying, 2005Image

The advent of elimination, 2006-2007…Image

…and a small tweak, 2008-2009Image

The current format, 2010-TodayImage



Favourite qualifying? A hated one?
#439608
From a fan's perspective, so much for the "total team effort". The F1 ruling body has separated the team from their drivers and seems to consider it a move for more competition. The driver is one part of the F1 team. The driver is the most "visible" position to the public, but with all of the F1 required technology, packed full of engineering data for team engineers to constantly evaluate, the communication team members must wait for a safety to suffer before they can relay a correction that would probably prevent a further degradation of safety. I cannot understand how the F1 ruling body, teams, engineering team members (and others on the team) and the driver cannot function as well as they did last year because of communications blackouts and call it as safe as ever. Thank God other safety sensitive fields do not function in this capacity. The medical profession, aviation, and other similar kinds of work have access to whatever is needed in the name of problem prevention - very similar to last year's F1 communication rules. Hopefully, this new and safety sensitive rule will conclude very soon so safety can be served alongside of competition, as it has with technology over last few years in F1.

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