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By Jabberwocky
#388163
This could be going into dodgy ground here.

In general, what makes you vote/join a party?

What would make you not vote/join a party?

Would you vote for a party/join a party that had the word veteran in the title (even though it was made clear that anyone would join)?

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By spankyham
#388169
I only vote formally (validly) if there is someone whose overall policies are worthwhile and who I believe has a good chance of sticking to implementing them. Otherwise I take the time to go and vote informal (invalid).

I believe in the power of the informal vote.

I haven't joined a party because most parties place their own existence above the work they should be doing.
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I didn't know until recently that when you guys say join a political party you actually have to join and pay dues etc. nothing like that here stateside.

But the short answer is political ideology, although more often than not it boils down to who is the lesser of two evils.
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By spankyham
#388172
Would you vote for a party/join a party that had the word veteran in the title...?


If it met my criteria in my post above - definitely yes.

Separately on veterans, I have enormous respect for that part of their lives that made them veterans.
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By spankyham
#388174
But the short answer is political ideology, although more often than not it boils down to who is the lesser of two evils.


If I felt neither party (assuming its down to two) were worthy, I would go vote and write words to that effect on my ballot paper.
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By spankyham
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The problem is that our 2016 presidential elections start right after the 2014 mid term elections in November of this year. They have a tendency to wear you down.
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By spankyham
#388180
The problem is that our 2016 presidential elections start right after the 2014 mid term elections in November of this year. They have a tendency to wear you down.


They wear me down and I'm half a planet away!
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By Jabberwocky
#388181
It is not that bad in the UK, seems to come in clumps. Local and District councillor are just one visit to the polls.
General Election (where the gov gets chosen is one vote)

And depending where you are you get to vote for the parish council

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By sagi58
#388183
Up here, when you join a political party, you pay dues, which are tax deductible.
That gives you the right to go to party nominations to vote for the candidate who
will represent you/the party in the next election.

There are people who like that option. Me? I've been involved when I personally
know the candidate and want to help them get the chance to run.
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By sagi58
#388184
Veterans:

I am very grateful for these special people and their dedication to our respective countries.
I have the utmost respect for anyone who puts their life on the line for others, most especially
veterans, since my own Dad was one.

Would I join/support a party with the word Veteran in its name? If the platform was similar to
my own convictions, then, Yes!

Personally, I associate the word with honour, courage and patriotism. Mind you, I'm not sure
that those words can generally be associated with politics/politicians.
By Hammer278
#388193
I haven't voted in my life. I just can't take the trouble to go over to a certain place (bound to be crowded) to stick a paper into a glorified ballot. I've heard 'the power of 1' many times from family/friends, but in my mind the time/money factor totally outweighs the result of the effort required.

IF they developed some kind of online system here I'd vote.
By CookinFlat6
#388215
I think it's worrying how many people are so blasé about using their tight to vote and make their own mind up about the best option in mostly 'the lesser of a few evils'
When considering the blood and sweat involved for their ancestors to win the right to vote and help shape their own destiny it's a real shame when do many abstain from lethargy or FOM the argument that all the choices are crap
Going back to the French Revolution or women's suffrage, it's mad not to vote or to take an interest in the candidature

As far as a party with veteran etc in the title I am particularly wary of anything that encourages a segment of the populace to vote in concert again sometimes giving up the hard fought right to think individually and shape moral policies without a party whip

Finally I think professional politicians should not be electable. The political apparatus can be career politicians but elected representatives and the prime minister should always be candidates that have already proven themselves in normal professions or careers and are real people.

Just my 5 pence worth
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By geetface9
#388217
In general, what makes you vote/join a party?


Their ideologies. I'm registered independent so I'm not party to the republicans or democrats.

What would make you not vote/join a party?


Their ideologies. I'll vote for a certain party if I believe my country is swaying too much in one direction. I voted republican for obama's first term and I voted for obama when he was up for reelection because I didn't trust the republican ideology at the time. It was very much a case of the lesser of two evils. I have every intention to vote republican in the next election to move the balance away from left back towards the middle, regardless of who's running, to be honest. The ball is now rolling on medical/recreational marijuana and gay marriage, but it's rolling the wrong direction regarding guns in my opinion. As I said, I'm independent so I want gay marriage, weed, AND guns, not just one or the other. Plus I'm starting my own business so I could benefit from the republican economic agenda.

Would you vote for a party/join a party that had the word veteran in the title (even though it was made clear that anyone would join)?

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The word veteran would not hold any sway for me. I have a lot of family that are current or ex military (my ex-wife, half brother, both my parents, grandparents and uncles) so I've lived that life as a civilian/dependent and I have to say that there are a lot of people in the service with which I wouldn't want to be associated in any way, shape, or form. I know many people that are/were only in the service because they had no other options, so I don't automatically consider veteran as honor.

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