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[myownalias]

I took part in the Stop Online Piracy Act Protest today my taking my websites offline for 12 hours! This doesn't affect anyone overseas right now but no doubt the rest of the world will follow if this proposal is passed in congress. Key points are that the entertainment industry with the backing of the US government would be able to take down whole sites that are allegedly linking to/hosting copyrighted material, without due process. An individual or group can be jailed for upto five years if links are found on their websites to illegal sharing sites or displaying copyrighted images 10 times in sixth month period. It would mean that websites like Twitter, Youtube, Facebook, mySpace and other social networking sites would have to actively censor posts, effectively negating the US constitutional right to free speech! That looks like a grim view of the future internet to me!

[geetface9]

I took part in the Stop Online Piracy Act Protest today my taking my websites offline for 12 hours! This doesn't affect anyone overseas right now but no doubt the rest of the world will follow if this proposal is passed in congress. Key points are that the entertainment industry with the backing of the US government would be able to take down whole sites that are allegedly linking to/hosting copyrighted material, without due process. An individual or group can be jailed for upto five years if links are found on their websites to illegal sharing sites or displaying copyrighted images 10 times in sixth month period. It would mean that websites like Twitter, Youtube, Facebook, mySpace and other social networking sites would have to actively censor posts, effectively negating the US constitutional right to free speech! That looks like a grim view of the future internet to me!

Is that stuff about jail time really true? I have been explaining to people today who don't know what SOPA is that it punishes websites for user activity, which would mean they're punishing the wrong people. That right there should be enough for anybody to oppose it in my opinion. Plus hollywood is boohooing about losing millions of dollars and losing jobs....maybe if they quit paying actors millions of dollars to put out trash like G.I. joe, transformers, and MI 4 ghost protoCOCK it wouldn't be an issue.

[LewEngBridewell]

Yesterday, Wikipedia was "blacked out" for a whole 24 hours for this reason I think.

[bud]

What I don't like is US law affecting the whole world. What was the reason for the British colonies of America revolting... Taxation with out representation was it? Well where's my say by vote? BS!

[What's Burning?]

The problems is with idiotic congress members sponsoring bills that they've no CLUE what they're about simply because a lobbying group is throwing money at them to sponsor it. I mean what can be more innocuous than, you don't want people stealing our movies and songs congressman do you?

Well, please do look at the video (yeah you have to put up with a 30 second ad) It's the most intelligent and grating argument on this issue and reminds me of how we keep electing idiots that don't have a clue about the issues they vote on. The first few minutes are laugh out loud clueless hypocrisy!

SOPA and PIPA as discussed by Rachael Maddow

[myownalias]

Is that stuff about jail time really true?

I have read this in several news articles, including the BBC website... I would assume they wouldn't write such things if it weren't true... it's not the American news media

The bills propose that anyone found guilty of streaming copyrighted content without permission 10 or more times within six months should face up to five years in jail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16596577

The problems is with idiotic congress members sponsoring bills that they've no CLUE what they're about simply because a lobbying group is throwing money at them to sponsor it. I mean what can be more innocuous than, you don't want people stealing our movies and songs congressman do you?

Well, please do look at the video (yeah you have to put up with a 30 second ad) It's the most intelligent and grating argument on this issue and reminds me of how we keep electing idiots that don't have a clue about the issues they vote on. The first few minutes are laugh out loud clueless hypocrisy!

SOPA and PIPA as discussed by Rachael Maddow

Love the video, just about sums it up perfectly... I made the same point on twitter about hypocrisy

The MPAA brands #SOPASTRIKE protests as "irresponsible" and a "stunt", and the RIAA suing single parents for millions wasn't? #hypocrisy

I have also split this thread off into its own thread, I didn't think I would get as much response as this to my post, I think it deserves it's own thread!

[racechick]

Big brother. We sneer at China for banning facebook and limiting the internet and now we have this...which doesnt only affect the country perpetrating the action but other countries as well!! Which to me is worse.

There was a young guy on the news in Britain because he had a website which pointed people to other websites which showed you how to get pirated stuff. He did it in the UK, its legal here. US have asked to have him extradited to the US where its illegal and the dumb judge has agreed . How can this be fair? His mother was in tears. I think there'll be an appeal.

[5thgearmax]

It will effect the rest the world by these major global websites getting sued for regulation violations. Which can take away from their company outputs

[andrew]

What I don't like is US law affecting the whole world. What was the reason for the British colonies of America revolting... Taxation with out representation was it? Well where's my say by vote? BS!

Team America World Police yeah has never sounded truer.

Big brother. We sneer at China for banning facebook and limiting the internet and now we have this...which doesnt only affect the country perpetrating the action but other countries as well!! Which to me is worse.

I would actually welcome the banning of Facebook and other such anti-social networking sites. The art of conversation has been lost on far too many. Limiting the internet would certainly hinder the Gary Glitter types, terrorists and civic unrest. Another case of the few ruining it for the many. Ach, what can you do - everything we do in this country is monitored.

[myownalias]

There was a young guy on the news in Britain because he had a website which pointed people to other websites which showed you how to get pirated stuff. He did it in the UK, its legal here. US have asked to have him extradited to the US where its illegal and the dumb judge has agreed . How can this be fair? His mother was in tears. I think there'll be an appeal.

AFAIK, it is not illegal in the US as long as you personally don't host the files or torrent files. linking to say The Pirate Bay is completely legal, otherwise how is Google allowed to list it?

As for the guy being extradited, is he is European citizen? if so, the US has no grounds for extradition as the 'crime' was committed on foreign soil and therefore bound by the laws of that nation!

Big brother. We sneer at China for banning facebook and limiting the internet and now we have this...which doesnt only affect the country perpetrating the action but other countries as well!! Which to me is worse.

I would actually welcome the banning of Facebook and other such anti-social networking sites. The art of conversation has been lost on far too many. Limiting the internet would certainly hinder the Gary Glitter types, terrorists and civic unrest. Another case of the few ruining it for the many. Ach, what can you do - everything we do in this country is monitored.

But you are anti-social networking, so that works for you but for many Facebook is a way to keep in contact with friends around the World, especially for someone like me who is 4,000 miles away from my friends in Englandshire. Twitter is great for getting the latest information from your favourite team/actor/player/driver etc and also seeing what your friends are up to. You could equally blame the lost art of conversation of TV, Movies, games consoles and many other things, blaming social networking for the fall of conversation is over the top in my opinion!

[bud]

I blame text messaging! Not only alters ones communication skills but seems to also alter people's use of spelling and grammar.

[Hammer278]

What I don't like is US law affecting the whole world. What was the reason for the British colonies of America revolting... Taxation with out representation was it? Well where's my say by vote? BS!

Team America World Police yeah has never sounded truer.

Big brother. We sneer at China for banning facebook and limiting the internet and now we have this...which doesnt only affect the country perpetrating the action but other countries as well!! Which to me is worse.

I would actually welcome the banning of Facebook and other such anti-social networking sites. The art of conversation has been lost on far too many. Limiting the internet would certainly hinder the Gary Glitter types, terrorists and civic unrest. Another case of the few ruining it for the many. Ach, what can you do - everything we do in this country is monitored.

There's nothing wrong with Facebook. Its a good application for keeping in touch with people, but there's plenty wrong with the many idiots who use it. There should be an age/lowest IQ limit test for users, problem is Fbook doesn't have that.

[racechick]

There was a young guy on the news in Britain because he had a website which pointed people to other websites which showed you how to get pirated stuff. He did it in the UK, its legal here. US have asked to have him extradited to the US where its illegal and the dumb judge has agreed . How can this be fair? His mother was in tears. I think there'll be an appeal.

AFAIK, it is not illegal in the US as long as you personally don't host the files or torrent files. linking to say The Pirate Bay is completely legal, otherwise how is Google allowed to list it?

As for the guy being extradited, is he is European citizen? if so, the US has no grounds for extradition as the 'crime' was committed on foreign soil and therefore bound by the laws of that nation!

Perhaps Ive not understood exactly what he did. I thought his website only linked to other websites. It's something thats legal here but not in America and he getting extradited through a treaty Uk has with USA. Apparantly the US make quite a lot of extradition requests to the UK. It was on the BBC news a week or so ago. I'll see if I can find out more.

EDIT: Ive found a link...ok its the mail online, but it gives the basic facts of the story
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... innon.html
A more reputable source
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-so ... e-16544335

[bud]

It's ridiculous that the UK is bending over and allowing this to happen. The US enforcing their own law on internationals is criminal and stinks of a super power getting out off control.

[geetface9]

Is that stuff about jail time really true?

I have read this in several news articles, including the BBC website... I would assume they wouldn't write such things if it weren't true... it's not the American news media

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