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[SennaVille]

Whenever a racing driver dies, I feel we need to rethink driver safety. Senna's death is a good example, driver safety has been improved greatly since his death.

I found this on the internet http://i.imgur.com/uPaHq.jpg

I don't love it, but if Dan Wheldon's life could have been saved if he had a closed cockpit, well....

[vlad]

This design really looks cool and futuristic!

[LewEngBridewell]

You know what? It actually doesn't look half bad!

(Just as an aside, there is another thread on a similar matter... viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10721).

[SennaVille]

You know what? It actually doesn't look half bad!

(Just as an aside, there is another thread on a similar matter... viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10721).

I looked but couldn't find a similar thread, we should just merge all of them

Here's Adrian Newey's take http://i.imgur.com/qWt0m.jpg

I think ten years from now people will be saying "They actually had their heads out like that????"

[LewEngBridewell]

You know what? It actually doesn't look half bad!

(Just as an aside, there is another thread on a similar matter... viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10721).

I looked but couldn't find a similar thread, we should just merge all of them

Here's Adrian Newey's take http://i.imgur.com/qWt0m.jpg

I think ten years from now people will be saying "They actualy had their heads out like that????"

I think the first picture you posted looks better. Not too much of an unnecessarily drastic change from what the cars look like now.

But, yes, like you said! I was thinking about people saying just that some decades down the line! If these changes get implemented, then today's cars will look totally draconian....

[SennaVille]

You know what? It actually doesn't look half bad!

(Just as an aside, there is another thread on a similar matter... viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10721).

I looked but couldn't find a similar thread, we should just merge all of them

Here's Adrian Newey's take http://i.imgur.com/qWt0m.jpg

I think ten years from now people will be saying "They actualy had their heads out like that????"

I think the first picture you posted looks better. Not too much of an unnecessarily drastic change from what the cars look like now.

But, yes, like you said! I was thinking about people saying just that some decades down the line! If these changes get implemented, then today's cars will look totally draconian....

Whenever you look back at F1 cars from earlier times they look sooo very outdated (those rear-wings hahahhaaaha), making changes to ensure driver safety makes more sense to me than aerodynamic improvements, even if it looks different. We'd get used to it, and Massa would never have had the clop upon his noggin if we had closed cockpits.

[LewEngBridewell]

Whenever you look back at F1 cars from earlier times they look sooo very outdated (those rear-wings hahahhaaaha), making changes to ensure driver safety makes more sense to me than aerodynamic improvements, even if it looks different. We'd get used to it, and Massa would never have had the clop upon his noggin if we had closed cockpits.

Yeah, there's a number of deaths that would've been prevented if such canopies had been implemented in previous decades.

[andrew]

Bloody awful! This is just the knee-jerk reaction after another death. F1 is an open cockpit series, always has been, always will be. I don't think this would be a suitable solution.

[scotty]

All good in theory but what happens when a car flips and catches fire or something? Then how the hell can the driver squeeze out?

Thing is, no matter what people try, driving a chunk of metal a 200+mph can always cause death. It's just a part of motorsport. Sad but true.

[darwin dali]

Bloody awful! This is just the knee-jerk reaction after another death. F1 is an open cockpit series, always has been, always will be. I don't think this would be a suitable solution.

And no more this out of the cockpit or this with the canopy

[andrew]

Bloody awful! This is just the knee-jerk reaction after another death. F1 is an open cockpit series, always has been, always will be. I don't think this would be a suitable solution.

And no more this out of the cockpit or this with the canopy

Maybe they'll have electric windows?

[racechick]

Maybe its the open wheels that make it more dangerous, especially on ovals where they go so fast and so close together. The wheels act as a launch. Would covered wheels, even just at the front, make it safer?

[darwin dali]

Maybe its the open wheels that make it more dangerous, especially on ovals where they go so fast and so close together. The wheels act as a launch. Would covered wheels, even just at the front, make it safer?

Just don't drive on small ovals with open-wheelers - there, problem solved

[Big Azza]

I do think open wheels are probably more of a risk than the canopy.

But I'm all for Formula One moving forward - as long as they don't keep slowing the cars down.

[mnmracer]

You know what? It actually doesn't look half bad!

(Just as an aside, there is another thread on a similar matter... viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10721).

I looked but couldn't find a similar thread, we should just merge all of them

Here's Adrian Newey's takehttp://i.imgur.com/qWt0m.jpg

I think ten years from now people will be saying "They actualy had their heads out like that????"

I think the first picture you posted looks better. Not too much of an unnecessarily drastic change from what the cars look like now.

But, yes, like you said! I was thinking about people saying just that some decades down the line! If these changes get implemented, then today's cars will look totally draconian....

Actually that was Adrian Newey's take on the ultimate Formula One car, if he had no rules to play by: the Red Bull X2010.
This says it all really: "On his first run, he shortened the simulated course record held by Formula 1 cars on GT5's simulation of the Suzuka Circuit by over 20 seconds, drawing out the theoretical potential of the X2010 machine." It's a beast!

On-topic though, I understand the discussion coming up, but a cannopy comes with other inherent dangers, and both dangers are so incredibly rare, it's nothing more than a little knee-jerk reaction. Many talk about Schumacher and Liuzzi in Abu Dhabi as a recent example, but I don't think it was that close and the high cockpit sides just did what they were designed for there.