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[What's Burning?]

80 million dollars a year for Vettel was it?

[racechick]

I've seen talk of a 90 mil deal being discussed, but I didn't post because it was the daily mail...and that could well refer to a multi year deal.
I agree Cookie that so long as Lewis doesn't get secrewd, his naivity in these matters could work to his advantage.

[What's Burning?]

Forbes was the one reporting 150 million pound sterling over three years. I mean no one throws money away in the sport like Ferrari, and Lewis is not driving for them. The most he'll be able to squeeze out of them is something considerably more than what they're giving Rosberg plus a scaled bonus for wins and a championship. Lewis' big money comes from outside the sport. The contracts where he can get paid for his star power.

Apparently something he was locked out of at McLaren but has room to negotiate in at Mercedes.

[Hammer278]

Well....you can't drive for a smart team enjoying a great car and also expect them to be dumb when it comes to contract negotiations.

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Forbes was the one reporting 150 million pound sterling over three years. I mean no one throws money away in the sport like Ferrari, and Lewis is not driving for them. The most he'll be able to squeeze out of them is something considerably more than what they're giving Rosberg plus a scaled bonus for wins and a championship. Lewis' big money comes from outside the sport. The contracts where he can get paid for his star power.

Apparently something he was locked out of at McLaren but has room to negotiate in at Mercedes.

Lewis earns a small amount (relatively speaking!) in endorsements about $1.5M as compared to his $32M F1 salary. Also he just isn't that much in demand as compared to many racing drivers/athletes etc. In racing popular drivers such as Rossi pulls in $10M in endorsements, Danica $9M (1.5x her salary!), Stewart $6M, Alonso $3M etc.

[CookinFlat6]

Forbes was the one reporting 150 million pound sterling over three years. I mean no one throws money away in the sport like Ferrari, and Lewis is not driving for them. The most he'll be able to squeeze out of them is something considerably more than what they're giving Rosberg plus a scaled bonus for wins and a championship. Lewis' big money comes from outside the sport. The contracts where he can get paid for his star power.

Apparently something he was locked out of at McLaren but has room to negotiate in at Mercedes.

Lewis earns a small amount (relatively speaking!) in endorsements about $1.5M as compared to his $32M F1 salary. He just isn't that much in demand as compared to many racing drivers/athletes etc. In racing popular drivers such as Rossi pulls in $10M in endorsements, Danica $9M (1.5x her salary!), Stewart $6M, Alonso $3M etc.

We dont know this yet, apart from Danica, those other drivers etc earn that amount for having been champions or sexy girls. We have to wait to see what he pulled in 2015 (this year) as WDC to compare. I read somewhere that he pulls in much more than your figure of less than 1 mill Sterling for all the names we see on his clothing. But ofcourse you have some proof of that number that you will post. So leaving aside things like Nascar, this leaves Alonso from F1 that you claim is indicative of the lack of demand for Lewis by raking in double of this magic 1.5$mill. Niow I also heard that Alonso was bankrolled by Santander, but I guess this doesnt count?
Maldo brings between 20 and 30 mill to his team and ofcourse gets his wage paid as well, which is ofcourse personal sponsorship and endorsement.

So OB, when you are ready, please demonstrate how Maldo is around 30x more in demand than Lewis, and demonstrate how much the WDC gets out of the Monster deal alone for example

[What's Burning?]

The £68m fortune he was estimated to possess earlier this year is still dwarfed by that of the now-retired David Beckham, who along with wife Victoria is said to be worth £210m.

But sponsorship and branding expert Nigel Currie, of brandRapport, predicts Hamilton will comfortably surpass the former footballer's personal wealth and may even threaten that of the combined 'Brand Beckham'.

"I would definitely say he's going to be Britain's highest-paid sportsman ever," Currie told Telegraph Sport.

[What's Burning?]

The £68m fortune he was estimated to possess earlier this year is still dwarfed by that of the now-retired David Beckham, who along with wife Victoria is said to be worth £210m.

But sponsorship and branding expert Nigel Currie, of brandRapport, predicts Hamilton will comfortably surpass the former footballer's personal wealth and may even threaten that of the combined 'Brand Beckham'.

"I would definitely say he's going to be Britain's highest-paid sportsman ever," Currie told Telegraph Sport.

2012 Total earnings: $28 million
Salary/winnings: $25 million
Endorsements: $3 million

Hamilton is a free agent after the 2012 F1 season. He is expected to have many suitors as Hamilton is one of F1’s most talented and marketable drivers. His current team, McLaren, controls almost all of the sponsorship rights to Hamilton, but he was able to ink a lucrative deal with Reebok in 2008 to be a global ambassador for the brand. It is his only personal endorsement deal.

He left McLaren partly because there wasn't much wiggle room for personal deals. So in 2012 he was making twice in endorsements of what you claim, even under the restrictive McLaren contract. Who would have thought that your information was based on your opinion instead of on facts.

Sportspromedia lists Hamilton as the number 1 most marketable sportsman for 2014.... go figure.

[CookinFlat6]

While we wait for OB to complete the triangle, lets see what the professionals say about this

Sponsorship and branding expert Nigel Currie, of brandRapport, predicts Hamilton will comfortably surpass the former footballer's personal wealth and may even threaten that of the combined 'Brand Beckham'.
"I would definitely say he's going to be Britain's highest-paid sportsman ever," Currie told Telegraph Sport.

"He's in pole position to do that, if you excuse the pun."
Currie points out that if Hamilton marries girlfriend Nicole Scherzinger, the couple's combined earning potential could eventually challenge that of the Beckhams.
"They'd be a highly-marketable couple in their own right," he added.

Ok so just speculation, and ofcourse we wont know how it turned out for his reining WDc 2015 deals, but lets have a closer look at the Alonso/Lewis latest OB 'eye opener'

Oh hello, whats this?

Hamilton, whose personal endorsements currently net him just £1.9m per year from Bombardier and IWC Schaffhausen, joined Mercedes from McLaren partly because they promised him more freedom to negotiate such deals outside of restrictive team-only contracts.

ooh eerr, DOUBLE OBs numbers already from just 2 brands

What do Forbes say?
Name
World list ranking
Salary and prize money
Endorsements
Total income

Lewis Hamilton -No 19-$29m -$3m-$32m
Wayne Rooney No 43 - $18.4m - $5m - $23.4m

Well well, someone has been telling porkies again, Lewis earns 2/3rds as much sponsorship as Britains favourite footballer - before his 2015 WDC income

Its always welcome to have some dampners poured just to 'add balance' to the joy felt by lewis/merc supporters, but perhaps you guys need to look back at your recent history of mea culpas and think carefully about if you really need the b!tch slapping

[Hammer278]

Alonso more in demand than Hamilton....hahahaha just compare their social media followings/pages. The only place Alonso is in demand is in Spain. Outside, no one really gives much of a sh!t about the guy, he last won a WDC about 9 years ago. And probably has 3 years of racing left in him, 4 if he wants to push it and retire Alesi style.

[CookinFlat6]

haha, you got your cursory google search in before me WB

its amazing that these vaseline boycotters are so eager to convince themselves that they are too scared to do even a cursory 1 minute Google search for fear of having their deep rooted 'beliefs' challenged

there is an art to consistent losing without changing approach, these are the type of chaps you want to play cards against

[What's Burning?]

haha, you got your cursory google search in before me WB

its amazing that these vaseline boycotters are so eager to convince themselves that they are too scared to do even a cursory 1 minute Google search for fear of having their deep rooted 'beliefs' challenged

there is an art to consistent losing without changing approach, these are the type of chaps you want to play cards against

Number one most martketable sports personality in 2014, Vettel was 27th and Alonso wasn't even in the top 50.

I guess that's the difference, some people would rather be right at any cost, while my preference is to know the truth rather than always looking to be right. I find I learn more about the world that way.

[CookinFlat6]

yeah, we need to see what ACTUALLY happens during 2015 to come to any meaningful conclusion, you cant jump up and say a guy is not paid x by sponsors purely on the data BEFORE his metric became comparable to those you are trying to compare him with( even then embarrasingly inaccurate bottom feeding)

HOWEVER, I think we need to be appreciative of OBs efforts to remind us that Lewis is not so great. Even the media have largely given up on trying to convince us that Lewis will decide to leave Merc and go try his luck at McLaren/Ferrari, Force India etc because he is not happy with his contract negotiations and wants a new challenge

And ofcourse its all gone quiet on the 'competition stiffling front' even the leading morons have decided moaning about the tokens is embarrasing, Watson has turned his energies to endorsing Ron and the pundits who got humiliated last year are still trying to avoid getting pulled up on their 'expertise' to be doing new mea culaps on day 2 of testing

So we are left with the most passionate of F1 fans to provide the ""balance"", lets have a big hand for OBs crew and pray that the ones who did boycott F1 in disgust come back soon

Roth, Ferrarigirl, mnm, andrew, (geet*), ABH, DAF, etc etc please come back, we really miss y'all, we will even let you rough us up a little if you come back

I dont do begging, but I reckon we can cut a deal

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Forbes was the one reporting 150 million pound sterling over three years. I mean no one throws money away in the sport like Ferrari, and Lewis is not driving for them. The most he'll be able to squeeze out of them is something considerably more than what they're giving Rosberg plus a scaled bonus for wins and a championship. Lewis' big money comes from outside the sport. The contracts where he can get paid for his star power.

Apparently something he was locked out of at McLaren but has room to negotiate in at Mercedes.

Lewis earns a small amount (relatively speaking!) in endorsements about $1.5M as compared to his $32M F1 salary. He just isn't that much in demand as compared to many racing drivers/athletes etc. In racing popular drivers such as Rossi pulls in $10M in endorsements, Danica $9M (1.5x her salary!), Stewart $6M, Alonso $3M etc.

We dont know this yet, apart from Danica, those other drivers etc earn that amount for having been champions or sexy girls. We have to wait to see what he pulled in 2015 (this year) as WDC to compare. I read somewhere that he pulls in much more than your figure of less than 1 mill Sterling for all the names we see on his clothing. But ofcourse you have some proof of that number that you will post. So leaving aside things like Nascar, this leaves Alonso from F1 that you claim is indicative of the lack of demand for Lewis by raking in double of this magic 1.5$mill. Niow I also heard that Alonso was bankrolled by Santander, but I guess this doesnt count?
Maldo brings between 20 and 30 mill to his team and ofcourse gets his wage paid as well, which is ofcourse personal sponsorship and endorsement.

So OB, when you are ready, please demonstrate how Maldo is around 30x more in demand than Lewis, and demonstrate how much the WDC gets out of the Monster deal alone for example

Whoa! A few facts certainly struck a nerve! 7 posts in reply!

Anyway thanks for confirming my post that Hamilton's endorsements are only but a fraction of his income in the face of WB's propaganda that "Lewis' big money comes from outside the sport. The contracts where he can get paid for his star power." No 'big money' as WB puts it despite being a wdc, he makes a good salary though. But Lewis just doesn't sell stuff I guess?!

ps. Maldonado? Are you serious? That's a state sponsorship not an endorsement. Get your head in the game cookin!

[CookinFlat6]

Unfortunately I am lumbered with 'Lewis balancers' like your self and the other bright sparks

lets put it in a format gary Anderson could probably understand

lewis was at Mclaren

At mclaren he had no freedom for endorsments

he is now at merc

he has freedom to cut deals

he just won the WDC 2 months ago

So we need to wait to see before we can start making hastly mea culpas

no one has forgotten your cleverness in arguing for the engine unfreeze as a solution to prevent Merc and Lewis

You are factually wrong already about how much he gets from endorsements

there are others here who know more than you and most important are honest

you and your constant 'mistakes' in your haste to boycott the current WDC are the definition of the compulsive loser

to be honest its sad that only a couple of the lamest boycotters remain around to provide entertainment

lets wait till the cheaper V10s come back as bernie waves his magick stick etc etc etc



see ya in 2017