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[bud]

Talk about credibiltiy to the sport when Ferrari has done nothing but the opposite in its history in the f1! why dont you two get a room! id like to be there to bash the s*** out of both of ya

[darwin dali]

Hm, fancy a dirty threesome, eh bud?

[bud]

i knew you would ask me one day but im not into "your" scene

[darwin dali]

I'm crushed!

[bud]

its ok DeMure is more than enough man for ya.

[McLaren Fan]

The case is now being referred to the appeals court by Max Mosley. This time Ferrari, and any other team, including McLaren, will be allowed to present their side of the story fully. The FIA deemed there was 'insufficient evidence' the first time around, so after all this all the cards will be out on the table, everybody will have had their say, so let's see what happens.

[darwin dali]

It's going to be interesting, yes. Looks like MM himself is not entirely comfortable with the verdict, especially in view of the backlash and with concern for F1's reputation in the public eyes. I haven't seen a date yet for the appeal...

[bud]

Max is pathetic it takes one out of a unanimous vote to get an appeal. whats the bloody point.

[Marco]

Max is pathetic it takes one out of a unanimous vote to get an appeal. whats the bloody point.

Ya, cant stand him. For the sports sake lets just drop the whole saga?

[deMuRe]

The Ferrari appeal will hold, then McLaren will have even more egg on their face.

They should disqualify themselves to retain their credibility.

You cannot tell me a senior McLaren employee had a documented copy of the way their biggest rival worked and didn't share it with anyone, I'm sorry, nobody is that farking stupid enough to believe it...

[Phil.T.Ho]

But how did McLaren get found guilty today and then escape punishment? In the past Ferrari were always said to be in the FIAs pocket, is it now McLarens turn?

its true they got a guilty verdict, but could you imagine how many people would not bother to watch f1 if all of a sudden the leading team were docked points or eliminated from the competition???? the toxic midget and mosley have too much control over this "sport" now for my liking!!!! i have to admit i saw no other possible outcome 2 weeks ago other than McLaren being excluded from the rest of this years championship!!!!!....how can they have this dossier, that could supposedly allow them to design, build and test a Ferarri 07 car according to the fia(sco), and NOT get a punishment of some kind, even if it was a huge fine!!!! Why is Coughlan still only suspended by McLaren???....He should already have been sacked before the fia(sco) meeting last week, and been nailed to the wall of the McLaren Technology Centre by his bo!!ocks !!!!!!! the man is a f idiot for putting McLaren in this position!!!!!!if he was a "disgruntled employee", then what the feck was he doing working for them in the first place???.....did nobody at McLaren see he was not a happy bunny??? what was wRONg Dennis doing while all this sh!te was going on?? did anyone else at McLaren really see the Ferarri data as has been stated already, or not???....if this data had been seen by John Neale in March then how can McLaren claim Coughlan was acting "alone" as they have said????? what a can of worms this all is now!!!!......i only feel sorry for Fernando and Lewboy!!!! the poison pixie and mad max know that if there was ANY kind of penalty that could affect the points in the drivers and constructors championships, then people would have turned f1 off by the truck load!!!!....it would have descended into a complete farce, and maybe even have caused a fatal fracture in the present structure of F1 !!! the money lost may have been too much for F1 to recover and the loss of credibility would be immeasurable!!!!!!!!!!!! so now when push comes to shove, for the sake of the money and the "sport", the fia(sco) have had to show they are really a toothless tiger, unable or unwilling to cut off their nose to spite their face.......yet Ferarri on the other hand would like nothing better than to see McLaren eliminated from this years world championship, because to win by any means is still winning to them!!!!! Ferarri WOULD be willing to cut off their nose to spite their face, as we saw at Indianapolis 05, and as we saw with tricky micky at Rascasse last year!!!!(parking his car to stop anyone else getting pole could have been an idea thought about by more than just the driver!!!) the politics in this sport is becoming ridiculous, and needs to be resolved so that the racing is more important than the money making machine it has become!!!!!!....

[Phil.T.Ho]

I'm crushed!

dont worry sweetie, ill take his place!!!!

[Selcouth_Feline]

its true they got a guilty verdict, but could you imagine how many people would not bother to watch f1 if all of a sudden the leading team were docked points or eliminated from the competition???? .

Very true. It seems they will lose either way at the moment - either they find McLaren guilty and but don't penalise them with a lot of criticism for the decision, or McLaren will be docked points etc at the appeal. Unless they only dock constructor's points, it's going to look really silly as Ferrari will almost certainly then be runaway winners.

Anyway, Stepney has now decided it wasn't him who gave the documents to Coughlan and he was set-up, although he has yet to indicate who he believes is the real culprit.

It's all just getting a little too WWE for my liking.

[bud]

http://www.grandprix.com/mole/mole19453.html

[bud]

The Ferrari appeal will hold, then McLaren will have even more egg on their face.

They should disqualify themselves to retain their credibility.

You cannot tell me a senior McLaren employee had a documented copy of the way their biggest rival worked and didn't share it with anyone, I'm sorry, nobody is that farking stupid enough to believe it...

if we were to believe Ferrari then yes we would all be dumb f***s like you demure! Keep saying if McLaren were all in on it why not copy it at woking why all the backdoor action whos to say the data he had was a plan for a technical group from mclaren and ferrari heading to another team.

Demure keep acting like a true sheep that you are! youre the one who will have egg on your face!