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[digitaleye]

Hello everyone,
Just joined the forum and I am an F1 newbie from the states. I've heard some of the talk regarding the new USGPE (formerly USF1) racing team and also the potential for bringing a race back to the US in 2010. I'm wondering what everyone thinks about the likelihood of either. How good a shot is there for an American racing team and an American grand prix in 2010? Also, where would you all like to see an F1 race in America? I personally think Indianapolis is a horrible circuit for F1 racing...I'd much rather see Long Beach or Watkins Glen as the venue. What do you think?

If you want to see F1 in the US again you better get behind the Indy circuit. You may not like it ( personally I think its OK, not great but it has some good points) but thats by FAR the best shot we've got to see F1 in the US. Long BEach, Watkins Glen and even Laguna Seca would be great as F1 circuits but someone would need to spend hundreds of millions on garage and hospitality facilities to make Bernie happy. Now I'm not the biggest fan of Tony George, but he's already done the spending and has a facility thats ready to go, NOBODY is going to spend that kind of loot in this country for F1, sad IMHO but oh so clearly true. Nobody would like to see Long Beach or Laguna more than me, I could almost walk to either one from where I am! ( Ok, a short drive) Indy is a very good track for spectator viewing though, and it was incredibly cheap for tickets and lodging. Far cheaper than any other F1 venue.

[csrracer]

If you want to see F1 in the US again you better get behind the Indy circuit. You may not like it ( personally I think its OK, not great but it has some good points) but thats by FAR the best shot we've got to see F1 in the US. Long BEach, Watkins Glen and even Laguna Seca would be great as F1 circuits but someone would need to spend hundreds of millions on garage and hospitality facilities to make Bernie happy. Now I'm not the biggest fan of Tony George, but he's already done the spending and has a facility thats ready to go, NOBODY is going to spend that kind of loot in this country for F1, sad IMHO but oh so clearly true. Nobody would like to see Long Beach or Laguna more than me, I could almost walk to either one from where I am! ( Ok, a short drive) Indy is a very good track for spectator viewing though, and it was incredibly cheap for tickets and lodging. Far cheaper than any other F1 venue.

Unfortunately all the great USA road circuits lack the Garage/ Hospitality facilities that F1 now requires.Most of these tracks are barely getting by financially and can't afford to put $millions into updating them. So unfortunately this only leaves us with a few dedicated Stadium type of facilities Indy, Daytona, Taladega, that are large enough for a decent infield course and F1 will never be a priority at any of these type of tracks. The only thing left would be a temporary street circuit and nobody wants to see any more of these. IMHO unless you can build something in a city park like Montreal or Australia, any USA F1 race will be doomed.

[Gilles 27]

I don't have a huge problem with Indy, it offers the teams a unique challenge with the banking and it is an historic venue. The infield is clumsy but but I don't think its any worse than the Hungaroring, certainly not to drive on GP4.

[csrracer]

I don't have a huge problem with Indy, it offers the teams a unique challenge with the banking and it is an historic venue. The infield is clumsy but but I don't think its any worse than the Hungaroring, certainly not to drive on GP4.

The biggest problem with Indy is Tony George and his ego battle with Bernie Ecelstone.

[bud]

hey, i love driving the Hungaroring in the sim games. its true what the drivers say, its like a big Kart track though that makes it bad for overtaking!

[Denthúl]

hey, i love driving the Hungaroring in the sim games. its true what the drivers say, its like a big Kart track though that makes it bad for overtaking!

I've had so many good races at Budapest because it's easy to defend your position, unless the other driver is willing to take a chance on the grass.

[cap-dude]

Hungary is a great track with a great flow, but of course is a pain to overtake round. Much like Laguna Seca really.

But I was thinking, Interlagos is actually pretty short. 1:13 is an average lap around Interlagos for an F1 car. Laguna Seca is only a little shorter. Personally I'd like to ask Bernie why F1 don't look into racing at Laguna Seca. Facilities maybe. Personally I'd like F1 to stop be snobby and start going to some of the great modest circuits the world provides rather than multi million circuits like Abu Dhabi.

[Rivelution]

Now I'm not the biggest fan of Tony George

F*** that guy, he's worse than Ecclestone.

[Denthúl]

Hungary is a great track with a great flow, but of course is a pain to overtake round. Much like Laguna Seca really.

But I was thinking, Interlagos is actually pretty short. 1:13 is an average lap around Interlagos for an F1 car. Laguna Seca is only a little shorter. Personally I'd like to ask Bernie why F1 don't look into racing at Laguna Seca. Facilities maybe. Personally I'd like F1 to stop be snobby and start going to some of the great modest circuits the world provides rather than multi million circuits like Abu Dhabi.

I think it's a safety thing. Would Laguna Seca meet the FIA criteria?

[Rivelution]

No. But it did in 97, and 98 when FIA GT went there...

[7UpJordan]

Hungary is a great track with a great flow, but of course is a pain to overtake round. Much like Laguna Seca really.

But I was thinking, Interlagos is actually pretty short. 1:13 is an average lap around Interlagos for an F1 car. Laguna Seca is only a little shorter. Personally I'd like to ask Bernie why F1 don't look into racing at Laguna Seca. Facilities maybe. Personally I'd like F1 to stop be snobby and start going to some of the great modest circuits the world provides rather than multi million circuits like Abu Dhabi.

That's what annoys me about Bernie, he'll only take on circuits which have overly-comfy, posh grandstands with prawn sarnies, caviar and a free bucket of Champers.

I personally don't care about the posh and fancy architecture that goes on at most of the new Asian circuits, especially Abu Dhabi, and the recent trend with most of the new tracks is that they all produce BORING RACES. Two little words that will never cross Bernie's mind.

[EwanM]

Hungary is a great track with a great flow, but of course is a pain to overtake round. Much like Laguna Seca really.

But I was thinking, Interlagos is actually pretty short. 1:13 is an average lap around Interlagos for an F1 car. Laguna Seca is only a little shorter. Personally I'd like to ask Bernie why F1 don't look into racing at Laguna Seca. Facilities maybe. Personally I'd like F1 to stop be snobby and start going to some of the great modest circuits the world provides rather than multi million circuits like Abu Dhabi.

That's what annoys me about Bernie, he'll only take on circuits which have overly-comfy, posh grandstands with prawn sarnies, caviar and a free bucket of Champers.

I personally don't care about the posh and fancy architecture that goes on at most of the new Asian circuits, especially Abu Dhabi, and the recent trend with most of the new tracks is that they all produce BORING RACES. Two little words that will never cross Bernie's mind.

Half the time these tracks also have no spectators, and those "special guests" I feel have no real interest in the sport, nor bother watching the race itself.

[7UpJordan]

Hungary is a great track with a great flow, but of course is a pain to overtake round. Much like Laguna Seca really.

But I was thinking, Interlagos is actually pretty short. 1:13 is an average lap around Interlagos for an F1 car. Laguna Seca is only a little shorter. Personally I'd like to ask Bernie why F1 don't look into racing at Laguna Seca. Facilities maybe. Personally I'd like F1 to stop be snobby and start going to some of the great modest circuits the world provides rather than multi million circuits like Abu Dhabi.

That's what annoys me about Bernie, he'll only take on circuits which have overly-comfy, posh grandstands with prawn sarnies, caviar and a free bucket of Champers.

I personally don't care about the posh and fancy architecture that goes on at most of the new Asian circuits, especially Abu Dhabi, and the recent trend with most of the new tracks is that they all produce BORING RACES. Two little words that will never cross Bernie's mind.

Half the time these tracks also have no spectators, and those "special guests" I feel have no real interest in the sport, nor bother watching the race itself.

Absolutely, the real winner in the eyes of the "special guests" is the plate of Prawn Sarnies served up by the kitchen staff of Suite 101.

[csrracer]

Personally I prefer a grassy hill, a cooler and a porta potty to a Huge grand stand, $10 beer and over priced track food.

[Rivelution]

Personally I prefer a grassy hill, a cooler and a porta potty to a Huge grand stand, $10 beer and over priced track food.

Dont forget a lawn chair!