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#107375
None of us can say for sure if the topic valid or not. We're all on the outside looking in and shouldn't make claims for or against it. I certainly thought about due to what seems like inconsistency with rulings against Hamilton. But it could also be contempt for Mclaren which he happens to drive for.

However, SUTIL IS AN ACTIVE F1 DRIVER AND KNOWS THE PARTIES INVOLVED. Friend of Hamilton or not, we have to consider the issue serious when someone like him ponders the question.

No we don't.


Why not? You gotta give a bit more than that.

Oh, wait: No you don't. :confused:

Sutil is a biased source and a lone voice. That makes his data anomalous


Lone voice? Sutil is 1 of only 20 current F1 drivers. How many drivers would it take to make anything that any of them say valid? And why would they? No matter the reason, penalizing another driver only helps them.

The fact that Sutil hinted at anything like this makes him either an incredible friend or a much less competitive driver than the rest.



Sutil is just saying all this about possible Racism to get people to know he exists on the track.. 'Hey that guys Adrian Sutil right ? Yeah I think he drives for that Force India'



Yeh certainly looks that way.
#107377
Well at least it's not as bad as everytime Ralf comes out with something obviously trying to indicate he thinks he still has the talent of a Champion.
#107378
Well at least it's not as bad as everytime Ralf comes out with something obviously trying to indicate he thinks he still has the talent of a Champion.


STILL has??????
#107379
Well at least it's not as bad as everytime Ralf comes out with something obviously trying to indicate he thinks he still has the talent of a Champion.


You take that back man! :irked:

Ralf Schumahcer could of been a 8x WDC he was just really really really unlucky.

:P
#107381
Well at least it's not as bad as everytime Ralf comes out with something obviously trying to indicate he thinks he still has the talent of a Champion.


STILL has??????

Well Ralf thinks he does, but we all knew he never did. :P
#107382
Well at least it's not as bad as everytime Ralf comes out with something obviously trying to indicate he thinks he still has the talent of a Champion.


STILL has??????

You have to understand, this is all in Ralf's mind.
#107386
Well at least it's not as bad as everytime Ralf comes out with something obviously trying to indicate he thinks he still has the talent of a Champion.


STILL has??????

Well Ralf thinks he does, but we all knew he never did. :P


Yeh i'd say he only got into F1 because of big bro.
#107389
Well at least it's not as bad as everytime Ralf comes out with something obviously trying to indicate he thinks he still has the talent of a Champion.


STILL has??????

Well Ralf thinks he does, but we all knew he never did. :P


Yeh i'd say he only got into F1 because of big bro.


Completely agree with you. I think that Nelson has only got into F1 because of his father and his wealth? He made Formula Teams for him etc.
He is now paying Renault? I think Ralf landed the chance because he thought he might have his own Michael Schumacher?
#107394
Yeh i'd say he only got into F1 because of big bro.


I agree to a large extent, i would add that he did a decent job for the most part in his first couple of seasons (1997-9) to be fair to him... but that encouraging start must've gone to his head. :hehe:


[ugh, it feels wrong and unclean giving Ralf Schu credit :P ]
#107397
[ugh, it feels wrong and unclean giving Ralf Schu credit :P ]

To quote Kryten when he cringes in Rimmerworld; "Oh sir how could you??!". :P
#107400
:rofl:
He did good in Williams i guess, I see him allot being 3rd etc. Just wonder if the *P*O*R*N*S*T*A*R* Wife made him better or worse :scratchchin:
#107403
Sutil is just saying all this about possible Racism to get people to know he exists on the track.. 'Hey that guys Adrian Sutil right ? Yeah I think he drives for that Force India'


Yeh certainly looks that way.



I can't imagine anyone intentionally bringing up race to get ahead. Makes no since. Not all publicity is good, especially in F1.

Speaking of bias, I'm wondering if you guy's are being biased toward Sutil? What has he ever said or done to make anyone biased toward him. He drives for a thus far non-competing team but that doesn't mean he's not a good driver. And before you reply to that last sentence: How many people unfairly criticized Button until now?
#107410
Sutil is just saying all this about possible Racism to get people to know he exists on the track.. 'Hey that guys Adrian Sutil right ? Yeah I think he drives for that Force India'


Yeh certainly looks that way.



I can't imagine anyone intentionally bringing up race to get ahead. Makes no since. Not all publicity is good, especially in F1.

Speaking of bias, I'm wondering if you guy's are being biased toward Sutil? What has he ever said or done to make anyone biased toward him. He drives for a thus far non-competing team but that doesn't mean he's not a good driver. And before you reply to that last sentence: How many people unfairly criticized Button until now?

I feel like that was supposed to be directed at me, but since I wasn't the one question Sutil's ability and those doing so didn't mention bias, I'm not sure who exactly you're talking to.

For the record, I think Sutil is too good for Force india
#107415
Sutil is just saying all this about possible Racism to get people to know he exists on the track.. 'Hey that guys Adrian Sutil right ? Yeah I think he drives for that Force India'


Yeh certainly looks that way.



I can't imagine anyone intentionally bringing up race to get ahead. Makes no since. Not all publicity is good, especially in F1.

Speaking of bias, I'm wondering if you guy's are being biased toward Sutil? What has he ever said or done to make anyone biased toward him. He drives for a thus far non-competing team but that doesn't mean he's not a good driver. And before you reply to that last sentence: How many people unfairly criticized Button until now?

I feel like that was supposed to be directed at me, but since I wasn't the one question Sutil's ability and those doing so didn't mention bias, I'm not sure who exactly you're talking to.

For the record, I think Sutil is too good for Force india


Really? I think Liuzzi would be a better choice...
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