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[spankyham]

Spot on WB

[What's Burning?]

Changing your mind shows a willingness to learn the truth is more important than being right or proving a point.

I dont have the energy to always be right - mainly because Im so often wrong on things, its easier just to accept it, than to bullpoo and try to save face .

I agree, but apparently not everyone sees it that way. In my career, being wrong would cause me to quickly be out of a job. So I guess I've learned to research and cross reference and simply say what I mean and mean what I say before I say it.

Now opinions is an entirely different story.

[CookinFlat6]

In my career we have the saying - my word is my bond, and in the old days you assoicated face to face and made agreements with big consequencies with little more than a nod and a wink, (this really is not a cliche) that you had to stand by whether made in the pub after a few or in normal working conditions. Nowadays its all electrinic so there are audit trials etc but all the interaction now takes place online, in fact all I have to do is move my mouse from one window to another to stop F1 taklk and talk about work - yet its become much much more important to only say things you mean and can stand by, and as everything yu say is now stored indefinetely for posterity its ever more important to have integrity and to be truthful not just to the best of your knowledge but also to the best of your ability to obtain that knowledge before mouthing off

But I guess some poeple just need a smiley whip or to make a joke and thats ok, they are happy their integrity remains intact and everyone will forget the latest mea culpa. at least if someone is trolling they dont pretend they are offering facts or reason - its when they make claims with some authority that its important to speak up otherwise whats the point - lalaland

[spankyham]

In my work I rarely have the luxury of time to research everything before having to deliver.

[LRW]

In my line of work, I drink a lot of coffee and tea, and spend a lot of time on the internet.

[CookinFlat6]

In my line of work, I drink a lot of coffee and tea, and spend a lot of time on the internet.

Yup, im with you on that

[What's Burning?]

In my line of work, I drink a lot of coffee and tea, and spend a lot of time on the internet.

this made me laugh out loud.

[overboost]

I give up Overboost, I guess I'll just have to live with the fact that the slower guy won in the inaugural Sochi Grand Prix only because the faster guy made a "bonehead" mistake according to your description. I hope I can come to grips with that until Austin and see if the slower guy makes it five in a row.

Probably best to give up as you have run out of room to maneuver!

Anyway my original comment about the possibility of Nico having a winning setup pertained to the race in Sochi so I am not sure why you are extending this to include five races. Regarding the next race, Hamilton has been great in previous years in Austin so I would expect him to have the edge there.

[CookinFlat6]

I give up Overboost, I guess I'll just have to live with the fact that the slower guy won in the inaugural Sochi Grand Prix only because the faster guy made a "bonehead" mistake according to your description. I hope I can come to grips with that until Austin and see if the slower guy makes it five in a row.

Probably best to give up as you have run out of room to maneuver!

Anyway my original comment about the possibility of Nico having a winning setup pertained to the race in Sochi so I am not sure why you are extending this to include five races. Regarding the next race, Hamilton has been great in previous years in Austin so I would expect him to have the edge there.

Quick question OB, why didnt Nico qualify on pole with the faster setup? I take it you have heard of park ferme? Or do you think Lewis is just so much faster and smarter that is able to beat Nico even in a slower car

Have you posted in the Ricciardo thread recently, is he not still the best driver on the grid?

[CookinFlat6]

It held true at the time. We discussed it at length. Do you want me to drag out all the finer points on my position, instead of this sound bite?

This is exactly the point i'm making, you have that sentence in your head, and that's it. It was the starting point of a discussion not an end point.

Now find where I said Nico was stronger mentally.

If it held at the time it must still hold 'the mental weakness we have seen before' - its just hidden now, if he had bad luck in a race it would be the same mental weakness roth?

so the mental weakness that held true because he made a couple of mistakes in quali, that disguises itself as misfortune - can come back at some point - yes or no?

That's a bit of a shift from...

"You told us earlier in the season that Lewis was mentally weak and had met his nemesis in Nicos superior mindset. Is this still the case, yes or no?"

Can you stick to one question at a time, yes or no?

i must confess roth, I was trying out the Lewis strategy of letting Nico go all gung ho at the corner by opening the door slightly knowing he could resist.

and I knew you couldnt resist declaring that you didnt mean Nico was stonger or capable of becoming lewis' nemisi

Holy moly. This is like Maradona's Hand of God goal. You really have to let it go.

Reverse Monaco and he'd still be behind. He still should have won the last two races but bottled it in quali. There's no use stepping in to defend the man when there is no defence. Nico hasn't pulled any other dubious moves, he just keeps finishing ahead and that's not the way it's allowed to be apparently.

And let's not keep having this altered reality where Hamilton's should be ahead because he's faster. DNFs are a part of racing. The general consensus before the season started was if Nico wins the title even if it's through Hamilton's DNFs, so be it. Monaco aside Nico's leading the championship fair and square.

It's gutting, I get that. But I realise Hamilton has a psychological weakeness that Nico's exploiting by proxy, and it's pointless denying it.

aplologies, but todays become a slow day

[What's Burning?]

I give up Overboost, I guess I'll just have to live with the fact that the slower guy won in the inaugural Sochi Grand Prix only because the faster guy made a "bonehead" mistake according to your description. I hope I can come to grips with that until Austin and see if the slower guy makes it five in a row.

Probably best to give up as you have run out of room to maneuver!

Anyway my original comment about the possibility of Nico having a winning setup pertained to the race in Sochi so I am not sure why you are extending this to include five races. Regarding the next race, Hamilton has been great in previous years in Austin so I would expect him to have the edge there.

I'm starting to despise this thread even though Lewis Hamilton won the race. I don't really care if Rosberg was faster, which is baffling since we wasn't faster when it counted. In any case, I've already cried uncle and humbly accepted defeat in a hollow victory.

It's just baffling how when they've started on the front row, faster or not. Rosberg has yet to beat Hamilton when they've both finished.

I'm baffled.

[CookinFlat6]

The real worry is that nico hasnt passed him on track EVEN when he had team orders HE COULDNT GET CLOSE ENOUGH, even when he crashed into him he still couldnt get past

Ok Nico (or his setup) are faster than Lewis, Nico has raw brutish unintelligent sheer pace - 2014 is about the cerebral approach, thinking things through, strategy, the ERS, the fuel management, the right lines - its playing into the hands of the more intellectual (in racing terms means streetwise) driver, the ones with race craft, the ones with cunning to defend in various ways, the ones who can stalk patiently and force a mistake

the bimbo with the fast setup (ROFL) is now a relic in todays thinking mans F1 - its no longer about just speed but finesse

Dont people listen to Sky news and the BBc anymore???????

[racechick]

I give up Overboost, I guess I'll just have to live with the fact that the slower guy won in the inaugural Sochi Grand Prix only because the faster guy made a "bonehead" mistake according to your description. I hope I can come to grips with that until Austin and see if the slower guy makes it five in a row.

Probably best to give up as you have run out of room to maneuver!

Anyway my original comment about the possibility of Nico having a winning setup pertained to the race in Sochi so I am not sure why you are extending this to include five races. Regarding the next race, Hamilton has been great in previous years in Austin so I would expect him to have the edge there.

Before quali it was reported that Nico would be reverting to Lewis' set up as the experimental one he tried didn't work. So if he had a winning set up, it was down to Lewis. That's said, Nico has given Lewis a run for his money in quali, there aren't many that can live with Lewis' one lap speed but Nico has shown that sometimes he can, credit there. ( but the quali scores are somewhat skewed by Minavo, Hokenheim and Hungary...is it Hungary? The engine fire one? ) . It's in race conditions and direct combat that Nico can't live with Lewis. Lewis was cruising on Sunday, it was a stroll in the park.
And I agree Austin, barring unforeseen circumstances will be Lewis'.

[What's Burning?]

Hungry Minavo.

[racechick]

Hungry Minavo.

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