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[Rorschach]

Actually, it didn't. The wording of the rules are such that the FIA could penalise him even if he cut the corner then gave the place back AND let Massa and Heidfeld past him, which is ridiculous. The FIA really need to sit down and put a proper rulebook together.

LOL. That is ridiculous. The precedent has been set now. It will be interesting to see how the rule is applied from now on.

A lot of dangerous precedents have been set now. Drivers are probably scared to lock their wheels going into the first corner!

Webber said it best about that I think. Even if he is prone to a little whinge every now and then, he was spot on. Out-braking yourself isn't illegal. Well, it wasn't at any rate.

[jackarse]

I swear that the unwritten rule was to give the advantage back. Kimi didn't regain his advantage, he just regained the lead.

[Rorschach]

They'll just end up breaking out the Scalextric kits.

They should just ask me what I think will happen in the race and give out the points based on that. Penalties and all.

[McLaren Fan]

I swear that the unwritten rule was to give the advantage back. Kimi didn't regain his advantage, he just regained the lead.

Hamilton was right up Raikkonen's arse. The Ferrari had no brakes, no traction and no front-end in the wet conditions.

[jackarse]

You really want that rule to applied in that way? Think about it. Drivers over egg the pudding often - they are racing on the ragged edge after all. A mistake is a mistake but if the rule was applied as you'd like it then half the drivers would be penalised every other race. KR himself would have been penalised as he went off the track, and fortunately for him gained good traction, at Spa himself after going in to a corner with far too much speed. It was a mistake though - under your interpretation he'd have been given a drive through or 25 second add on.

I would personally prefer the wait one corner to attack again rule BUT far too often drivers know that they may cut a chicane ten/twenty seconds before they reach their distination and thats not on.

[Rorschach]

I swear that the unwritten rule was to give the advantage back. Kimi didn't regain his advantage, he just regained the lead.

Which was the advantage before the corner....

Anyway, this is where the rule sucks balls. It's totally subjective and different people will have different views. However, a clear precedent has been set as to how the rule is applied. That's fine if it is from now. If not, then the stewards can expect a lot more fecal matter to be hurled in their direction.

[Denthúl]

I swear that the unwritten rule was to give the advantage back. Kimi didn't regain his advantage, he just regained the lead.

Well, Hamilton was pretty much up his arse going in to the corner, and he was up his arse leading into the next corner. I think that was good enough, to be honest.

They'll just end up breaking out the Scalextric kits.

They should just ask me what I think will happen in the race and give out the points based on that. Penalties and all.

Well, as long as Kubica wins...

But that's seriously the state it's getting to. With all these ridiculous decisions, Mosley's Nazi scandal and the new standard engine tender, there's plenty of reason for certain teams to instigate a mass-withdrawal from the sport and set up a new series with a real governing body.

[Rorschach]

You really want that rule to applied in that way? Think about it. Drivers over egg the pudding often - they are racing on the ragged edge after all. A mistake is a mistake but if the rule was applied as you'd like it then half the drivers would be penalised every other race. KR himself would have been penalised as he went off the track, and fortunately for him gained good traction, at Spa himself after going in to a corner with far too much speed. It was a mistake though - under your interpretation he'd have been given a drive through or 25 second add on.

I would personally prefer the wait one corner to attack again rule.

I would agree. Regardless of what happened at Spa, it seems there was TEH ULTIMATEZ clarification and implementation of the rule and there can be no claims of not knowing whether it's right or wrong anymore from the teams or drivers. Let's just hope the stewards are consistent. That's what would drive me nuts as a fan - inconsistent rulings from now on.

[jackarse]

Which was the advantage before the corner....

Anyway, this is where the rule sucks balls. It's totally subjective and different people will have different views. However, a clear precedent has been set as to how the rule is applied. That's fine if it is from now. If not, then the stewards can expect a lot more fecal matter to be hurled in their direction.

Wrong. If they both took the chicane correctly Hamilton wouldn't of immediately been up Kimis arse. This is illustrated in every F1 race where a driver attacks hard on the straight, is right up his opponents arse but then tends to fade away if his oppenent beats him on the corner.

Hamilton was right up Raikkonen's arse. The Ferrari had no brakes, no traction and no front-end in the wet conditions.

You forget that McLarens car was going all over the place too. If Kimi retained his advantage who knows what mastake that could of caused Hamilton. He is lucky he ended up in third in my opinion.

[Denthúl]

Which was the advantage before the corner....

Anyway, this is where the rule sucks balls. It's totally subjective and different people will have different views. However, a clear precedent has been set as to how the rule is applied. That's fine if it is from now. If not, then the stewards can expect a lot more fecal matter to be hurled in their direction.

Wrong. If they both took the chicane correctly Hamilton wouldn't of immediately been up Kimis arse.

Hamilton was right up Raikkonen's arse. The Ferrari had no brakes, no traction and no front-end in the wet conditions.

You forget that McLarens car was going all over the place too. If Kimi retained his advantage who knows what mastake that could of caused Hamilton. He is lucky he ended up in third in my opinion.

Seriously, what are you on? Hamilton had closed a gap of several seconds up to absolutely nothing in the space of a lap or so! His car was by far handling better than Raikkonen's in the wet on dry tyres...

[Rorschach]

Well, as long as Kubica wins...

But that's seriously the state it's getting to. With all these ridiculous decisions, Mosley's Nazi scandal and the new standard engine tender, there's plenty of reason for certain teams to instigate a mass-withdrawal from the sport and set up a new series with a real governing body.

I like Kubica. I really hope BMW give him the engine and car he deserves next season. Alonso in a strong Renault would also be great. Ferrari, LH, Kubica and Alonso really going at it next season for the championship.

As for this standard engine thingybob - it's gotta be a bluff from the FIA right? It's just gotta be...

[McLaren Fan]

Seriously, what are you on? Hamilton had closed a gap of several seconds up to absolutely nothing in the space of a lap or so! His car was by far handling better than Raikkonen's in the wet on dry tyres...

[Denthúl]

Seriously, what are you on? Hamilton had closed a gap of several seconds up to absolutely nothing in the space of a lap or so! His car was by far handling better than Raikkonen's in the wet on dry tyres...

[jackarse]

Seriously, what are you on? Hamilton had closed a gap of several seconds up to absolutely nothing in the space of a lap or so! His car was by far handling better than Raikkonen's in the wet on dry tyres...

Excuse me? I think you forget that Hamilton was equally as awkward in the lap where Kimi crashed. It could of been him in the wall just as easily. He was lucky he spun off in a wide area or it would of been his car in the wall.

It is you who is deluded, sir!

[Denthúl]

Seriously, what are you on? Hamilton had closed a gap of several seconds up to absolutely nothing in the space of a lap or so! His car was by far handling better than Raikkonen's in the wet on dry tyres...

Excuse me? I think you forget that Hamilton was equally as awkward in the lap where Kimi crashed. It could of been him in the wall just as easily. He was lucky he spun off in a wide area or it would of been his car in the wall.

It is you who is deluded, sir!

Not nearly as, to be honest. His car is fundamentally better in the wet conditions and since the Ferrari struggles to get heat into its tyres in the dry then it was always going to have an advantage. Yes, Lewis was gingerly making his way around the track, but he was still doing it faster than Raikkonen and doing a better job of it because his equipment permitted it.