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[bud]

YAWN!

We have heard this all before

How about another POLL of who is tired of hearing this crap ? Hey I'm tifosi but I want a fair battle yet the FIA or whoever the council is who one want's to blame is at fault not Ferrari. Would the pot be calling the kettle black if the table's were turned? I seriously doubt it.

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[prozac26]

It's disappointing to see Ferrari getting favourable calls.

I like Ferrari, but I hate the fact that the governing body is giving them a clear advantage.

[texasmr2]

YAWN!

We have heard this all before

How about another POLL of who is tired of hearing this crap ? Hey I'm tifosi but I want a fair battle yet the FIA or whoever the council is who one want's to blame is at fault not Ferrari. Would the pot be calling the kettle black if the table's were turned? I seriously doubt it.

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Kitchen ware, it's alive!!!

[scotty]

If it were really as bad as the whining seems to make out then these people would actually just stop watching and not be on here moaning about it every 5 minutes. How very sad.

[bud]

If it were really as bad as the whining seems to make out then these people would actually just stop watching and not be on here moaning about it every 5 minutes. How very sad.

pretending its a fair and even sport, now thats sad

[scotty]

If it were really as bad as the whining seems to make out then these people would actually just stop watching and not be on here moaning about it every 5 minutes. How very sad.

pretending its a fair and even sport, now thats sad

Well, that's not what i said or think, but yeah, you are right, that is also a very strange way to look at things.

[Malibu327]

Does all this come down to the fact that Ferrari is going to win the constructor's championship again?

I was wondering because it's not in the bag yet is it? I mean we still have two races to go. It seems to me that Ferrari won last year because their nearest competitor had their points stripped due to illegal activities. Is that Ferrari's fault? This year, if we pull it off again, I would have to say it is because Heikki has not been getting near the results he should be in a car that is clearly superior. Also not Ferrari's problem.

I'm new to these forums and I was attracted by the fact that most people posting seem to know a lot about the sport in general, but as the season draws to a close all I'm seeing are angry McLaren fans looking for someone to blame for their disappointing results of late. This has been one of the most exciting seasons in a long time, I would say whoever wins the championship has more than earned it.

This forum is going to get pretty boring in a hurry if it's just going to be a McLaren pity party every week...

[bud]

Does all this come down to the fact that Ferrari is going to win the constructor's championship again?

they are? well they are infront no thanks to the Stewarding thats gond in their favour through this year...... there in lies the fact of....what this all comes down to

as for bagging Heikki? typical, only looking at the stats to surmise your opinion on him. He out of the two McLarens has had the most tech failures whilst might i add in strong positions.
Added to the fact he is only in his second season in his second team.
Heikki is doing a strong job, Ferrari on the other hand are the ones you should be worrying about,
their driving pair are the more experienced of the two top teams. yet they are going against two sophomores and looking like rookies themselves

[harry-fox]

so sick of the fia being so biased to ferrari

[McLaren Fan]

Does all this come down to the fact that Ferrari is going to win the constructor's championship again?

I was wondering because it's not in the bag yet is it? I mean we still have two races to go. It seems to me that Ferrari won last year because their nearest competitor had their points stripped due to illegal activities. Is that Ferrari's fault? This year, if we pull it off again, I would have to say it is because Heikki has not been getting near the results he should be in a car that is clearly superior. Also not Ferrari's problem.

I'm new to these forums and I was attracted by the fact that most people posting seem to know a lot about the sport in general, but as the season draws to a close all I'm seeing are angry McLaren fans looking for someone to blame for their disappointing results of late. This has been one of the most exciting seasons in a long time, I would say whoever wins the championship has more than earned it.

This forum is going to get pretty boring in a hurry if it's just going to be a McLaren pity party every week...

If Ferrari win one or both titles because they are the stronger team, then that's fair enough in my book. McLaren will just have to try better next time. What we are seeing at the minute is the governing body backing Ferrari and acting to the detriment of McLaren.

[jsonf1]

You Macca fans sure have a hard time to admit that someone else is just simply BETTER.
The only once complaining are the Macca fans......
Face it, they are not strong enough, their drivers make too many mistakes and they just need to be BETTER.
I can somehow see that the same guys will be complaining in a few years but it will go something like this "I am sick of the Toro Rosso-Ferrari-BMW-Honda-Toyota-Renault-Red Bull-Williams-Force India----FIA corruption"

[texasmr2]

I can somehow see that the same guys will be complaining in a few years but it will go something like this "I am sick of the Toro Rosso-Ferrari-BMW-Honda-Toyota-Renault-Red Bull-Williams-Force India----FIA corruption"

[7UpJordan]

You Macca fans sure have a hard time to admit that someone else is just simply BETTER.
The only once complaining are the Macca fans......
Face it, they are not strong enough, their drivers make too many mistakes and they just need to be BETTER.
I can somehow see that the same guys will be complaining in a few years but it will go something like this "I am sick of the Toro Rosso-Ferrari-BMW-Honda-Toyota-Renault-Red Bull-Williams-Force India----FIA corruption"

Oh yeah right I can see that happening, the FIA have a smaller grudge against them for not signing the new concorde agreement 10 years or so ago.

[McLaren Fan]

You Macca fans sure have a hard time to admit that someone else is just simply BETTER.
The only once complaining are the Macca fans......
Face it, they are not strong enough, their drivers make too many mistakes and they just need to be BETTER.
I can somehow see that the same guys will be complaining in a few years but it will go something like this "I am sick of the Toro Rosso-Ferrari-BMW-Honda-Toyota-Renault-Red Bull-Williams-Force India----FIA corruption"

Oh yeah right I can see that happening, the FIA have a smaller grudge against them for not signing the new concorde agreement 10 years or so ago.

Yes. In 1997, McLaren and Tyrell along with Williams refused to sign the new Concorde Agreement, and, not surprisingly a series of interesting penalties etc. occurred soon after. Very suspicious.

[7UpJordan]

You Macca fans sure have a hard time to admit that someone else is just simply BETTER.
The only once complaining are the Macca fans......
Face it, they are not strong enough, their drivers make too many mistakes and they just need to be BETTER.
I can somehow see that the same guys will be complaining in a few years but it will go something like this "I am sick of the Toro Rosso-Ferrari-BMW-Honda-Toyota-Renault-Red Bull-Williams-Force India----FIA corruption"

Oh yeah right I can see that happening, the FIA have a smaller grudge against them for not signing the new concorde agreement 10 years or so ago.

Yes. In 1997, McLaren and Tyrell along with Williams refused to sign the new Concorde Agreement, and, not surprisingly a series of interesting penalties etc. occurred soon after. Very suspicious.

And it's funny how Tyrrell got themselves kicked out of the 1984 Championship and then even as BAR they got banned for 2 races in 2005.