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[Ron Dennis]

oh sorry 737 i must have been mistaken

[737flier]

oh sorry 737 i must have been mistaken

about mike being 13 ?????

[bud]

OMG not another OJ.....

jesus lord help me!

Mike has not attacked me personally so I am one up so to speak and a return would simply even the score, however some of you, well, you must have lost count.

I don't think the mods are here to defend us from every little remark, but see that the traffic is not one way.

I have not see evidence yet that Mike is unduly favoured, he certainly needs a little help as 13 year olds don't have the emotional maturity that we (should) have.

Mike is apparently in his 40s or 50s! he has been following Ferrari since i was in nappies he rekns!

[737flier]

OMG not another OJ.....

jesus lord help me!

Mike has not attacked me personally so I am one up so to speak and a return would simply even the score, however some of you, well, you must have lost count.

I don't think the mods are here to defend us from every little remark, but see that the traffic is not one way.

I have not see evidence yet that Mike is unduly favoured, he certainly needs a little help as 13 year olds don't have the emotional maturity that we (should) have.

Mike is apparently in his 40s or 50s! he has been following Ferrari since i was in nappies he rekns!

No s*** ......

[bud]

Yes s***! haha

[mooker]

Irrelevant stuff....

Mike, there's a well known saying that you should pay heed to. "If there's one thing worse than a sore loser, its a bad winner". Please stop the cringeworthly drivel, its embarrassing to everyone else that genuinely supports Kimi.

What I have noticed in your posts, and several other Ferrari 'fan' posts, is a general lack of the way Ferrari operate as a team. They strive to take every advantage of every situation, whenever and wherever, right or wrong. If you push your luck, things sometimes go your way. Its more of an Italian/European attitude that you can understand more if you knew about Italian football. (Not the football you americans play with your hands, but the football the rest of the world plays with feet). Football in Italy is about 50% pure skill and genius, and 50% acting and trying to falsly win a freekick. Its just the way they do sport over there. Or Shumacher, another cheating genius. His record is shameful, but I still think he is one of the gifted drivers ever to have raced. The so called "politics" are an accepted part of their strategy.

No they did not, they used an illegal tactic to hand it to Kimi.

Its a very contentious issue in my opinion, however I can console myself in thinking that had Ferrari not bothered with the flexi-floor they would still have won anyway. I think it was a better circuit for their car this year. Illegal probably, but I think it only gave them an advantage they didn't need. If it was ever contested I'm sure they will insist that their penalty is a loss in developement time and having to redesign chassis, testing time, etc.

[McLaren Fan]

It's not even a case of whether of not Ferrari used team orders. Team equality has now been brought to the fore. To think the FIA at the behest of some biased, Spanish half-wit sent somebody to keep watch on McLaren for driver equality and then to have Massa let Raikkonen by as the team wished and say nothing about it. Furthermore, what was Schumacher doing for ten years at Ferrari? There was certainly nothing equal about that. The FIA invented this equality rule for McLaren only for the weekend to try and destabilise them and assist Ferrari. The fact that it's one rule for Ferrari and a very different rule for everybody else is what annoys me and should annoy every Formula One fan.

[ArtHowe]

Mike you are a first class dimwit.

This rather unflattering personal attack (watch it buddy) puts him at least in good company - halfwit Stewart...

Watch it buddy!

[8-ball]

ferrari did derserve to win the drivers title as their car won the most races and that had nothing to do with the politicking during the year. As for the WCC well thats open for debate

No they did not, they used an illegal tactic to hand it to Kimi. Had Alonso ceded his position then the FIA would have banned McLaren.

And the WCC was won in court

what was the illegal ferrari tactic? trying to get justice after Mclaren were caught in possession of their car specs! The FIA had to punish them.

[7UpJordan]

nice pic but that looks like a F2004 to me with Schumacher at the wheel! if you want to make witty chops atleast get your content right!

Actually it looks like the 1997 F310, and you're right about Schumacher being at the wheel.

[mooker]

ferrari did derserve to win the drivers title as their car won the most races and that had nothing to do with the politicking during the year. As for the WCC well thats open for debate

No they did not, they used an illegal tactic to hand it to Kimi.

what was the illegal ferrari tactic? trying to get justice after Mclaren were caught in possession of their car specs! The FIA had to punish them.

I think he's referring to the team orders and having Massa let him pass. TBH.[/i]

[8-ball]

ferrari did derserve to win the drivers title as their car won the most races and that had nothing to do with the politicking during the year. As for the WCC well thats open for debate

No they did not, they used an illegal tactic to hand it to Kimi.

what was the illegal ferrari tactic? trying to get justice after Mclaren were caught in possession of their car specs! The FIA had to punish them.

I think he's referring to the team orders and having Massa let him pass. TBH.[/i]

What is wrong with playing a team game?!! Massa had no chance to win but kimi did so why not help him. just cause LH pisses off FA and can't play the team game doesn't mean that kimi can't.

[mooker]

What is wrong with playing a team game?!!

It contravenes the rules and therefore is considered illegal. Remember McLaren had an FIA official in their pits in Brazil to prevent team games.

[Ron Dennis]

What is wrong with playing a team game?!!

It is illegal thats why

I guess that does not count

[ArtHowe]

No they did not, they used an illegal tactic to hand it to Kimi.

Its a very contentious issue in my opinion, however I can console myself in thinking that had Ferrari not bothered with the flexi-floor they would still have won anyway. I think it was a better circuit for their car this year. Illegal probably, but I think it only gave them an advantage they didn't need. If it was ever contested I'm sure they will insist that their penalty is a loss in developement time and having to redesign chassis, testing time, etc.

Weasel words Mooker. You can't justify premeditated cheating by claiming that it would have made no difference anyway. Your "consolation" is not worth sh*t. " Yes your Honour, I did brutally murder 50 people but, let's face it, they would have eventually died anyway."