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[darwin dali]

Aw BMW, no subpeondas, no lawsuits, no police investigation, no cheating, no cry babies, no dates with the World Council. Unfortunately, next year they will be a force but not this year.

Hey, second in the constructors, that's pretty darn good!

[bud]

Ferrari are second still! im sure Ferrari fans will take this as a win as in the past they have had gimme wins courtesy of the FIA

[Irv the Swerve]

If McLaren are last in the table of the WCC, does that mean they will be in the last garage beside Prodrive and Spyker? Or since it might be Nando or Lewis that wins the title, will they stay first in the paddock and remain 1-2?

[bud]

True, but ferrari where faster on most of the tracks, but both McLaren drivers have finished every race, were massa and kimi have not.
I mean look at what went wrong,
australia - massa engine probelm
Spain - Kimi electrical
Monaco - Suspected Sabotage
germany - Kimi electrical again
Italy - Massa Suspension.
Not mention, massa probelms in Britan and Canada, plus Kimis accident in Monaco.
I'm pretty sure if all those never happened the points would be very different

Monaco had nothing to do with sabotage, Ferrari said they found the white powder before while setting up for the race weekend not afterwards.

besides detergent in the fuel tanks had nothing to do with their lack of performace around Monaco compared to McLaren

[TheDarkSide10]

Nick for world champion? YES YES YES, he deseres it more than anyone for his talent hard work and great dancing technique! also his beard! Why not have a champion like nick who would be a good role model to youngsters to drive fairly? And work hard and never let media over saturation of the talents of ur team mates get to you, incidently who has something against nick cos alledgedly kimi, webber, and massa and now robert are all " potential WDC of the future" why never nick? why do people hate him so much? C~~~S!

[texasmr2]

Well, I'm NOT a tifosi! And I maintain that it is not objective to say they're losing badly because logic says they're not.

Spot on!

[nikon133]

Imagine the following scenario:
The FIA finds both McLaren and Ferrari in breach of the sporting code (there might be some dark secrets surfacing from Ferrari's conduct as well) and thus, both teams and all 4 drivers get stripped of all or most of their points. Who would leave this outcome as the laughing third? You guessed it: BMW and NH - World Champions 2007! One of the most decent, professional and quietly hard working teams - I wouldn't mind...

Yeah, well, but if you can imagine Ferrari loosing their points to FIA (which is hard to imagine), then... can you imagine that BMW looks decent and professional only because they are still a bit out of focus? What I'm trying to say is, much as I know they might be into peeking at others' secrets much as anyone else, but since they are still not fighting for the title, it is just not important for anyone..?

How many people would expect RD and McLaren involved in such spying scandal, stripped of all constructor points and fined with 100 mils six months ago..?

[darwin dali]

I would...

[nikon133]

I would...

Well, I did say how many PEOPLE...

[McLaren Fan]

Monaco - Suspected Sabotage

The mafia, sorry Ferrari, came out and said themselves that didn't affect the performance of the car.