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By Neo
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So according to that article, Dennis is butthurt. McLaren is butthurt. Cry me a river; I love McLaren, but drivers come and go. Man up.

lol thats one way to put it buddy...but if these things weren't such a big issue then Drivers wouldn't tweet without thinking and team bosses would be able to communicate with their employees. It just goes to show that they are all human just like you and me and sometimes they can be driven by emotion too instead of taking a more logical and business like approach.

RD human?:eek:

mmmm maybe not.
wouldn't surprise me if he was actually made inside the mclaren factory!
By LRW
#326953
It's total coincidence.

But this week's Tooned was noticeably missing one of its drivers.......
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By racechick
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So what's been clear for a while to some of us is now becoming obvious to the more sceptical.
By Hammer278
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Lol what a sad situation....the driver they all love is practically useless, and the driver who is the outsider is continuing to bring in the results. What's going to happen in the race I wonder, my guess is anything could happen. No smoke without fire, and lack of support of the track can easily translate on track in one form or another.
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By racechick
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as it has been doing at times throughout the year. I wonder how long they spent working on the two drivers respective race strategies?
By Hammer278
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This i the first time McLaren has had such 'bad tyre wear" that they;ve had to make an extra pit stop compared the other front runners....what a fish.

I don't think Hamilton's ever worked harder in his life for....1 point. :P

Glad to see Vettel take the win though, hope for no failures for him and he can become the youngest 3X WDC.
By CookinFlat6
#327118
Interestingly enough, all Jenson had to do was to stay out of trouble and he probably would have had a fast car without issues and come ahead of Lewis

No matter how hard a driver is helped off track, still cant make a purse out of a sows ear
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By f1boy
#327123
No matter how hard a driver is helped off track, still cant make a purse out of a sows ear


:rofl: How true.
By What's Burning?
#327126
Au revoir all hopes for a WDC... and Sayonara to the WCC while you're at it McLaren. :wavey:
By Hammer278
#327145
Interestingly enough, all Jenson had to do was to stay out of trouble and he probably would have had a fast car without issues and come ahead of Lewis

No matter how hard a driver is helped off track, still cant make a purse out of a sows ear


The best part is, Button while being in a McLaren (a car which deserved to win this years' WDC).....is just 38 points ahead of Rosberg...in the renowned 'hopeless crapbox' chassis called a Mercedes. 1 freak win and a 2nd for Rosberg and it's all square between the great McLaren + lead driver, and holy sh*tbox Mercedes. :hehe:
By CookinFlat6
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Funny how so many think Lewis has less chance at Merc. At this McLaren team there is no chance either, the difference is that Merc have a plan to get better. Whereas McLaren, no matter what they say about 'we must have a look at our process, we must improve' are confirming a trend that has been apparent for many many years. Incompetence, lack of leadership, petty internal politics, waste of resources, terrible driver management.

Now the sponsors are starting to walk, (Maxi muscle and Tooned are all I noticed for first time, like an HRT affair) they are at the end of an era of engine supply stability, this is when they really need to break the trend and start maximising their resources, so what do they do? they mismanage a talent like Lewis out the door, replace him by a pay driver whose backing is portable, and waste resources on a yes man with no grip on anything

McLaren are the Williams of the next decade. Itrs apparent to anyone watching that they are just not capable of the results or at running a winning team like RBR, Ferrari, Renault.

Well done Lewis for moving before the stuff really hits the pan, well done for securing a representative compensation package, well done for keeping image rights away from these increasingly desparate hyenas, well done for jumping of a sinking ship.

Personally I would rather Lewis stops driving hard for the rest of the season for these monkeys rather than take risks for a WCC in a team whose incompetence has to now be considered within a health and safety context.
By vaptin
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Interestingly enough, all Jenson had to do was to stay out of trouble and he probably would have had a fast car without issues and come ahead of Lewis

No matter how hard a driver is helped off track, still cant make a purse out of a sows ear


Are we allowed to talk about Jenson in this thread? Come on man, the incident wasn't his fault,
By CookinFlat6
#327161
If he had qualified better, he wouldn't have been in that position, if he had left more room, checked his mirror ditto, if he had been more aware of the inexperience around him ditto

These things happen when a fast car is out of position on the grid, a fast car gets out of position on the grid when the driver is not able to qualify it at the front end. And before anyone says he was unlucky in Q2blah blah blah

ask yourself this, how often has he failed to make Q3 this year, or has qualified out of position for the car?
By Nin-Chin
#327162
Korean Grand Prix 2012: Lewis Hamilton loses out to Jenson Button in his race to say his goodbyes at McLaren
Lewis Hamilton says he is still hopeful that he will have the chance to say a proper goodbye to his McLaren team after having to cancel an evening out that he had organised for staff in Japan last weekend.

In keeping with previous years, Hamilton had booked a bowling alley in Suzuka for the Saturday night of the Japanese Grand Prix, where he had intended to say a few words about his impending departure, but was forced to cancel when a number of the team went on a charity track run with his McLaren team-mate Jenson Button instead.
“I booked 16 lanes at the bowling alley for Saturday night, but something else came up so the guys weren’t able to do it,” Hamilton explained.
“They were already committed before. They went for a run with JB or something like that.”
McLaren stressed there was no suggestion that team members had purposely avoided the evening, adding that they would happily have gone bowling had they not already committed to the run with Button.
Hamilton, who is moving to rivals Mercedes at the end of the year, ended the weekend under a cloud after posting a message on Twitter accusing his team-mate of a lack of respect for having ‘unfollowed’ him on the social networking site, an accusation he later had to withdraw and for which he has since apologised.


He told reporters in Japan that he was going to ask team principal Martin Whitmarsh for an opportunity to address the team in an effort to explain his departure and stress how much driving for McLaren meant to him.
Hamilton has still not spoken to McLaren’s executive chairman Ron Dennis, the man who signed him for McLaren at the age of 13. But the 27 year-old is confident he will have the chance to iron things out with everyone before the end of the year.
“I am sure at one stage, probably back at the factory, I will get a chance,” he said.
“I’m pretty sure I will be able to. A lot of drivers [at McLaren] have come and gone – just left. But it’s different for me.
"I have a good relationship with these people. I did my work experience here [at McLaren’s headquarters in Woking] when I was at school.

"It was fantastic and where I built a great bond with a lot of people who are still there today.
“I will try but of course there will be people who are happy I am going, some who are unhappy I am going.
"Some who will be sad, some who will be supportive – that’s how things are.”
Hamilton, who qualified third on the grid for the Korean Grand Prix, added that he would certainly clear the air with his former mentor Dennis before quitting Woking for Brackley.
The 2008 world champion, who lies 42 points behind Ferrari’s championship leader Fernando Alonso going into the race, which begins at 7am UK time, is desperate to end his time at McLaren on a high by winning one or both of the world championships.
The constructors’ championship, which McLaren have not won since 1998, would appear the more likely of the two but Hamilton said that, whether McLaren won or not, he would not leave feeling he had “unfinished business” with the team.
“I don’t feel as though I have,” he said. “I have never felt that I have not given it my all or anything like that, because I have always given it all I have.”
Red Bull’s Mark Webber pipped his team-mate and pre-race favourite, Sebastian Vettel, to pole at the Yeongam circuit, with Hamilton and Alonso making up the second row.
Button could only qualify 11th after yellow flags interrupted his final run in Q2.





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Bowled over: Lewis Hamilton's planned party for McLaren staff at a Suzuka bowling alley was scuppered because team members had already signed up to a charity run with Jenson Button on the same day
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By darwin dali
#327168
McLaren are the Williams of the next decade. Itrs apparent to anyone watching that they are just not capable of the results or at running a winning team like RBR, Ferrari, Renault.

Renault a winning team?
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