- 24 Oct 13, 13:56#377524
A racing car that does not win, is just art
Is Williams the retirement home for Brazilian drivers?
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CookinFlat6 wrote:Its good for both Massa and Williams, assuming Williams can afford a negative pay driver.Hey, it's a step up from Maldonado. I'm sure Massa is bringing some Brazilian sponsors dollars with him. The Venezuelan money can't be as good as it used to be, (or perhaps as reliable) with the tenuous political situation in the country after Chavez' demise.
Massa has a chance to get paid while crashing out and generally not showing up in most races and Williams have a chance to find new excuses for not moving forward
What's Burning? wrote:It's only going to be a step up if Massa changes his attitude, and agrees to a mentor role with the team's young drivers. If he adopts the macho posing and whining about "unfair" treatment persona, it will be a waste of a potentially good seat. True about the $$$$ though. Massa's claims about not being a ride buyer are more an ego thing, as according to Autosport he will have good Brazillian backing. And further to your point about the Maldo-dough, given the questions surrounding the viability of that support, is he out of F1?CookinFlat6 wrote:Its good for both Massa and Williams, assuming Williams can afford a negative pay driver.Hey, it's a step up from Maldonado. I'm sure Massa is bringing some Brazilian sponsors dollars with him. The Venezuelan money can't be as good as it used to be, (or perhaps as reliable) with the tenuous political situation in the country after Chavez' demise.
Massa has a chance to get paid while crashing out and generally not showing up in most races and Williams have a chance to find new excuses for not moving forward

operaman wrote:See I think Massa won't feel the need to have a chip on his shoulder at Williams. He knows he's there to be seen as a leader and to perhaps mentor Bottas as much as possible. The situation at Ferrari was Massa knowing his status as soon as the ink was put on Alonso's contract. I think this will be good for everyone involved, and a rare win/win situation that doesn't happen often in the sport.What's Burning? wrote:It's only going to be a step up if Massa changes his attitude, and agrees to a mentor role with the team's young drivers. If he adopts the macho posing and whining about "unfair" treatment persona, it will be a waste of a potentially good seat. True about the $$$$ though. Massa's claims about not being a ride buyer are more an ego thing, as according to Autosport he will have good Brazillian backing. And further to your point about the Maldo-dough, given the questions surrounding the viability of that support, is he out of F1?CookinFlat6 wrote:Its good for both Massa and Williams, assuming Williams can afford a negative pay driver.Hey, it's a step up from Maldonado. I'm sure Massa is bringing some Brazilian sponsors dollars with him. The Venezuelan money can't be as good as it used to be, (or perhaps as reliable) with the tenuous political situation in the country after Chavez' demise.
Massa has a chance to get paid while crashing out and generally not showing up in most races and Williams have a chance to find new excuses for not moving forward

What's Burning? wrote:Perhaps, but I thought the same when Rubens went there. If Bottas proves to be faster, and he is no slouch, things may go downhill fast. Faster than Felipe can get around the track.operaman wrote:See I think Massa won't feel the need to have a chip on his shoulder at Williams. He knows he's there to be seen as a leader and to perhaps mentor Bottas as much as possible. The situation at Ferrari was Massa knowing his status as soon as the ink was put on Alonso's contract. I think this will be good for everyone involved, and a rare win/win situation that doesn't happen often in the sport.What's Burning? wrote:It's only going to be a step up if Massa changes his attitude, and agrees to a mentor role with the team's young drivers. If he adopts the macho posing and whining about "unfair" treatment persona, it will be a waste of a potentially good seat. True about the $$$$ though. Massa's claims about not being a ride buyer are more an ego thing, as according to Autosport he will have good Brazillian backing. And further to your point about the Maldo-dough, given the questions surrounding the viability of that support, is he out of F1?CookinFlat6 wrote:Its good for both Massa and Williams, assuming Williams can afford a negative pay driver.Hey, it's a step up from Maldonado. I'm sure Massa is bringing some Brazilian sponsors dollars with him. The Venezuelan money can't be as good as it used to be, (or perhaps as reliable) with the tenuous political situation in the country after Chavez' demise.
Massa has a chance to get paid while crashing out and generally not showing up in most races and Williams have a chance to find new excuses for not moving forward
After the agony of defeat, success will be sweet!


LRW wrote:Wow. You Ferrari fans really do dislike Massa.I hope you didn't take my comment out of context? You see, it's not that I dislike Massa; but,
Poor fellow, what has he ever done to you guys .....?
After the agony of defeat, success will be sweet!Jabberwocky wrote:It is because Massa has had his back turned to them.Massa's comment that he was going to drive for himself was little more than annoying!
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