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[texasmr2]

[bud]

Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!

Every team uses team orders, every team is capable of using them. Ferrari did so, and it worked out.

Hekki moved over for Hamilton didn't he? No, it only counts when Ferrari do it and not Mclaren doesn't it?

That was not even remotely the same

[spankyham]

Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!

Every team uses team orders, every team is capable of using them. Ferrari did so, and it worked out.

Hekki moved over for Hamilton didn't he? No, it only counts when Ferrari do it and not Mclaren doesn't it?

That was not even remotely the same

Yeah Vaptin, its "not even remotely the same"

If you like, I'll give you the very simple Bud-rule to work out when Team Orders are ok and when they are an abomination against nature.

IF team-orders = "by Ferrari"
THEN = team and Tifosi should be executed at dawn (but keep their food)

IF team-orders = "by McLaren"
THEN deny, excuse, say its different circumstances AND its "all ok" in fact, go ahead and praise team and drivers

[bud]

thats a great technical post you have made there Spanky...

[Big Azza]

Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!

Every team uses team orders, every team is capable of using them. Ferrari did so, and it worked out.

Hekki moved over for Hamilton didn't he? No, it only counts when Ferrari do it and not Mclaren doesn't it?

That was not even remotely the same

Yeah Vaptin, its "not even remotely the same"

If you like, I'll give you the very simple Bud-rule to work out when Team Orders are ok and when they are an abomination against nature.

IF team-orders = "by Ferrari"
THEN = team and Tifosi should be executed at dawn (but keep their food)

IF team-orders = "by McLaren"
THEN deny, excuse, say its different circumstances AND its "all ok" in fact, go ahead and praise team and drivers

Holy crap I ran that in Javascript and world imploded.

[texasmr2]

Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!

Every team uses team orders, every team is capable of using them. Ferrari did so, and it worked out.

Hekki moved over for Hamilton didn't he? No, it only counts when Ferrari do it and not Mclaren doesn't it?

That was not even remotely the same

Yeah Vaptin, its "not even remotely the same"

If you like, I'll give you the very simple Bud-rule to work out when Team Orders are ok and when they are an abomination against nature.

IF team-orders = "by Ferrari"
THEN = team and Tifosi should be executed at dawn (but keep their food)

IF team-orders = "by McLaren"
THEN deny, excuse, say its different circumstances AND its "all ok" in fact, go ahead and praise team and drivers

[bud]

Did Heikki give up a race win? Did Massa and Piquet also move over for Hamilton? What a crock. Lewis was on new tyres and was litterally faster than Heikki. Unlike Massa who was going to win the race. If you cannot see the difference between the two you should try and take your red glasses off like you say you do from time to time.
tex you're just as bad with the red mist.

[texasmr2]

I know am bud so here is an early Christmas gift from me:

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I'm messing with ya mate and always respect your informed opinion/post.

[darwin dali]

Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!

Every team uses team orders, every team is capable of using them. Ferrari did so, and it worked out.

Hekki moved over for Hamilton didn't he? No, it only counts when Ferrari do it and not Mclaren doesn't it?

That was not even remotely the same

Yeah Vaptin, its "not even remotely the same"

If you like, I'll give you the very simple Bud-rule to work out when Team Orders are ok and when they are an abomination against nature.

IF team-orders = "by Ferrari"
THEN = team and Tifosi should be executed at dawn (but keep their food)

IF team-orders = "by McLaren"
THEN deny, excuse, say its different circumstances AND its "all ok" in fact, go ahead and praise team and drivers

Holy crap I ran that in Javascript and world imploded.

[AKR]

Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!

In the fantasy world called "Planet Bud" this would be true. Sadly for you that in the real world it isn't.

[AKR]

I doubt Alonso will win the title but obviously it would be extremely nice if he did. Anyway if he does win it, I hope he wins it by less than 7 points just to make everyone else look like absolute idiots for not using team orders themselves.

why isit a lot of ferrari fans are actually hoping its less then 7 points, maybe alonso fans care more about having ammunition to piss off other fans then the integrity of their titles or of course the support of their team. he is a deserving champion if he wins it or doesnt but to actually hope he wins it vy less then 7 with rhe reason being: " to see the reaxtion of so and so" is quite pitiful. Hope you lot are only saying it ro windthe mclaren lewis fanboys up, itd be quite worrying id you truly meant it!

I'm hoping that, if Alonso does win that it is less than 7 points just so to see the reaction of people like yourself and to further make people like yourself look even more silly for not believing that it is a team sport and team orders are part of racing.

FRAFPDD: " he is a deserving champion if he wins it or doesnt", tick me off your abuse list, cause it doesnt bother me incrimentally, great driver, great season. I suppose this is actually physically hurting you that a Hamilton fan also likes Alonso

Oh yeah and in another thread FRAFPDD: " team orders are an integral part of F1, they should just ban the rule and if people dont like it then thats tough"

girlfriend you need to check the forum more often!

oops, sorry. By the way, it is ok for you to like Alonso. In fact you probably like him better than me. I only support him because he is in a Ferrari. In other words I haven't forgot the Alonso things from the past. Anyway I know that if Alonso were to win it, and it were by 7 points or less, you may not care, but some people here do. I need not mention any names of course.

[Sea Bass]

Did Heikki give up a race win?

What relevance does this have?

Did Massa and Piquet also move over for Hamilton?

again, relevance?

Lewis was on new tyres and was litterally faster than Heikki.

If he was so much faster, one wonders why Mclaren employed team orders then?

Unlike Massa who was going to win the race.

We don't know that for sure.

[bud]

Relevance? Did you even watch that race? Or are you basing everything on one corner? What is Relevent about Lewis passing Massa and Piquet is he was clearly 5 tenths to a second a lap faster than Heikki massa and piquet! Heikki didnt fight lewis because it was futile and to not hinder his team mate!
Alonso and Massa on the other hand well we all know Massa was trading fastest laps with Alonso and was not slower than him!
What we do know for sure is Alonso needed team orders to pass Massa. In saying that Massa would other wise have won or Alonso would have just passed him unaided.

[kaizensuru]

Why don't you just see the video and stop de silly argument? An Image is worth a thousand words (unless you're blind, that is)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epI6u6uA8hM

Heikki yielded, team orders or whatever you want to call them, but it happened.

[Sea Bass]

Relevance? Did you even watch that race? Or are you basing everything on one corner? What is Relevent about Lewis passing Massa and Piquet is he was clearly 5 tenths to a second a lap faster than Heikki massa and piquet! Heikki didnt fight lewis because it was futile and to not hinder his team mate!

If it was futile, then why the team order? He may have been faster than Heiki, but he could have easily got help by Heiki, or there could have been contact. We don't know. But the fact is that team orders were issued.

(Also worth noting that the BMW could have ended up playing a part if it came out infront of Lewis).

Alonso and Massa on the other hand well we all know Massa was trading fastest laps with Alonso and was not slower than him!

That might be true, but it doesn't really change much.

What we do know for sure is Alonso needed team orders to pass Massa. In saying that Massa would other wise have won or Alonso would have just passed him unaided.

Yep and Lewis needed team orders to pass Heiki.