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vaptin wrote:That was not even remotely the samebud wrote:Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!Every team uses team orders, every team is capable of using them. Ferrari did so, and it worked out.
Hekki moved over for Hamilton didn't he? No, it only counts when Ferrari do it and not Mclaren doesn't it?
bud wrote:Yeah Vaptin, its "not even remotely the same"vaptin wrote:That was not even remotely the samebud wrote:Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!Every team uses team orders, every team is capable of using them. Ferrari did so, and it worked out.
Hekki moved over for Hamilton didn't he? No, it only counts when Ferrari do it and not Mclaren doesn't it?
spankyham wrote:Holy crap I ran that in Javascript and world imploded.bud wrote:Yeah Vaptin, its "not even remotely the same"vaptin wrote:That was not even remotely the samebud wrote:Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!Every team uses team orders, every team is capable of using them. Ferrari did so, and it worked out.
Hekki moved over for Hamilton didn't he? No, it only counts when Ferrari do it and not Mclaren doesn't it?
If you like, I'll give you the very simple Bud-rule to work out when Team Orders are ok and when they are an abomination against nature.
IF team-orders = "by Ferrari"
THEN = team and Tifosi should be executed at dawn (but keep their food)
IF team-orders = "by McLaren"
THEN deny, excuse, say its different circumstances AND its "all ok" in fact, go ahead and praise team and drivers
spankyham wrote:bud wrote:Yeah Vaptin, its "not even remotely the same"vaptin wrote:That was not even remotely the samebud wrote:Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!Every team uses team orders, every team is capable of using them. Ferrari did so, and it worked out.
Hekki moved over for Hamilton didn't he? No, it only counts when Ferrari do it and not Mclaren doesn't it?
If you like, I'll give you the very simple Bud-rule to work out when Team Orders are ok and when they are an abomination against nature.
IF team-orders = "by Ferrari"
THEN = team and Tifosi should be executed at dawn (but keep their food)
IF team-orders = "by McLaren"
THEN deny, excuse, say its different circumstances AND its "all ok" in fact, go ahead and praise team and drivers
and always respect your informed opinion/post. 
Big Azza wrote:spankyham wrote:Holy crap I ran that in Javascript and world imploded.bud wrote:Yeah Vaptin, its "not even remotely the same"vaptin wrote:That was not even remotely the samebud wrote:Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!Every team uses team orders, every team is capable of using them. Ferrari did so, and it worked out.
Hekki moved over for Hamilton didn't he? No, it only counts when Ferrari do it and not Mclaren doesn't it?
If you like, I'll give you the very simple Bud-rule to work out when Team Orders are ok and when they are an abomination against nature.
IF team-orders = "by Ferrari"
THEN = team and Tifosi should be executed at dawn (but keep their food)
IF team-orders = "by McLaren"
THEN deny, excuse, say its different circumstances AND its "all ok" in fact, go ahead and praise team and drivers
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
bud wrote:Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!In the fantasy world called "Planet Bud" this would be true. Sadly for you that in the real world it isn't.
FRAFPDD wrote:oops, sorry. By the way, it is ok for you to like Alonso. In fact you probably like him better than me. I only support him because he is in a Ferrari. In other words I haven't forgot the Alonso things from the past. Anyway I know that if Alonso were to win it, and it were by 7 points or less, you may not care, but some people here do. I need not mention any names of course.AKR wrote:FRAFPDD wrote:I'm hoping that, if Alonso does win that it is less than 7 points just so to see the reaction of people like yourself and to further make people like yourself look even more silly for not believing that it is a team sport and team orders are part of racing.AKR wrote:I doubt Alonso will win the title but obviously it would be extremely nice if he did. Anyway if he does win it, I hope he wins it by less than 7 points just to make everyone else look like absolute idiots for not using team orders themselves.why isit a lot of ferrari fans are actually hoping its less then 7 points, maybe alonso fans care more about having ammunition to piss off other fans then the integrity of their titles or of course the support of their team. he is a deserving champion if he wins it or doesnt but to actually hope he wins it vy less then 7 with rhe reason being: " to see the reaxtion of so and so" is quite pitiful. Hope you lot are only saying it ro windthe mclaren lewis fanboys up, itd be quite worrying id you truly meant it!
FRAFPDD: " he is a deserving champion if he wins it or doesnt", tick me off your abuse list, cause it doesnt bother me incrimentally, great driver, great season. I suppose this is actually physically hurting you that a Hamilton fan also likes Alonso
Oh yeah and in another thread FRAFPDD: " team orders are an integral part of F1, they should just ban the rule and if people dont like it then thats tough"
girlfriend you need to check the forum more often!
bud wrote:Did Heikki give up a race win?What relevance does this have?
Did Massa and Piquet also move over for Hamilton?again, relevance?
Lewis was on new tyres and was litterally faster than Heikki.If he was so much faster, one wonders why Mclaren employed team orders then?
Unlike Massa who was going to win the race.We don't know that for sure.
bud wrote:Relevance? Did you even watch that race? Or are you basing everything on one corner? What is Relevent about Lewis passing Massa and Piquet is he was clearly 5 tenths to a second a lap faster than Heikki massa and piquet! Heikki didnt fight lewis because it was futile and to not hinder his team mate!If it was futile, then why the team order? He may have been faster than Heiki, but he could have easily got help by Heiki, or there could have been contact. We don't know. But the fact is that team orders were issued.
Alonso and Massa on the other hand well we all know Massa was trading fastest laps with Alonso and was not slower than him!That might be true, but it doesn't really change much.
What we do know for sure is Alonso needed team orders to pass Massa. In saying that Massa would other wise have won or Alonso would have just passed him unaided.Yep and Lewis needed team orders to pass Heiki.
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