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Re: That might well be true

By AKR
-  12 Oct 08, 10:26#71080
AKR the only fact is Ferrari have a different definition of the term winning! and they are not winners!

Ferrari are false champions. They were false champions in 1999, false champions last season and are heading to be false champions once again this season with the help of their friends, the FIA.


As was Senna's title in 1990 when he deleibratly and admitted taking out Prost. And I don't care what happened the year before. 2 wrongs don't make a right. And in 1999 had Michael Schumacher not broken his leg, McLaren's Mika Hakkinen wouldn't of even won the drivers title so consider yourselves very lucky then. You know this is true as Eddie Irvine was crap and almost won the title. And I am sorry if he is your country man but he was crap. Salo should of won in Germany for Ferrari but had to swap positions with Irvine to help him and the same was the case in Malaysia when Schumacher did the swap as well.
And Irvine's win in Australia that same year was luck as well.


False champions..... i like that sums Ferrari up nice :thumbup:

That's what Senna called Prost after the 1989 season, so credit to the great man. :D


Yeah but who cares what happened in 1989 as both were McLaren drivers so as far as teams are concerned McLaren came out on top no matter which one of the 2 drivers were to win back then.

Re: That might well be true

By Gaz
-  12 Oct 08, 10:26#71081
AKR the only fact is Ferrari have a different definition of the term winning! and they are not winners!

Ferrari are false champions. They were false champions in 1999, false champions last season and are heading to be false champions once again this season with the help of their friends, the FIA.


As was Senna's title in 1990 when he deleibratly and admitted taking out Prost. And I don't care what happened the year before. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Never mind the year before. Balestre telephoned the track and ordered them not to change the sides of the pole and second position to favour Prost and Ferrari. Senna gave you lot just what you deserved.


Exactly he did what he did now after all those years McLaren and Ron Dennis are paying for all the crimes committed to Ferrari. So McLaren deserve all the bad they get.


Wtf are you talking about AKR?

it sounds like your just trying to piss off Mclaren fans now?
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Re: That might well be true

By AKR
-  12 Oct 08, 10:32#71089
AKR the only fact is Ferrari have a different definition of the term winning! and they are not winners!

Ferrari are false champions. They were false champions in 1999, false champions last season and are heading to be false champions once again this season with the help of their friends, the FIA.


As was Senna's title in 1990 when he deleibratly and admitted taking out Prost. And I don't care what happened the year before. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Never mind the year before. Balestre telephoned the track and ordered them not to change the sides of the pole and second position to favour Prost and Ferrari. Senna gave you lot just what you deserved.


Exactly he did what he did now after all those years McLaren and Ron Dennis are paying for all the crimes committed to Ferrari. So McLaren deserve all the bad they get.


Wtf are you talking about AKR?

it sounds like your just trying to piss off Mclaren fans now?


No McLaren supporters are calling Ferrari wins false and so I am hitting back at them. What they throw at me I can throw back as I have way to much F1 knowledge up my sleeve. :D

Re: That might well be true

By Gaz
-  12 Oct 08, 10:36#71095
AKR the only fact is Ferrari have a different definition of the term winning! and they are not winners!

Ferrari are false champions. They were false champions in 1999, false champions last season and are heading to be false champions once again this season with the help of their friends, the FIA.


As was Senna's title in 1990 when he deleibratly and admitted taking out Prost. And I don't care what happened the year before. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Never mind the year before. Balestre telephoned the track and ordered them not to change the sides of the pole and second position to favour Prost and Ferrari. Senna gave you lot just what you deserved.


Exactly he did what he did now after all those years McLaren and Ron Dennis are paying for all the crimes committed to Ferrari. So McLaren deserve all the bad they get.


Wtf are you talking about AKR?

it sounds like your just trying to piss off Mclaren fans now?


No McLaren supporters are calling Ferrari wins false and so I am hitting back at them. What they throw at me I can throw back as I have way to much F1 knowledge up my sleeve. :D



Yeh but suggesting one of...no infact the greatest racing driver in the history of the sport committed "crimes" against ferrari is just utter stupidity.

You have to look at other peoples point of view, it seams this season that the FIA has been very hard on Mclaren and alot of fans are very bitter about LH loosing his win in spa. And the two decisions that went against him today (directly and indirectly)

but there's no use bringing Senna in to this because thats just asking for trouble.
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Re: That might well be true

By AKR
-  12 Oct 08, 10:45#71108
Yeh but suggesting one of...no infact the greatest racing driver in the history of the sport committed "crimes" against ferrari is just utter stupidity.

You have to look at other peoples point of view, it seams this season that the FIA has been very hard on Mclaren and alot of fans are very bitter about LH loosing his win in spa. And the two decisions that went against him today (directly and indirectly)

but there's no use bringing Senna in to this because thats just asking for trouble.


Then they (The other McLaren supporters) should stop calling Ferrari cheats as in the end they are just looking at their own point of view as well. If the FIA really wanted to cheat then why give Massa a drive through penalty at all today? Answer that. Had he not got that he could of easily had finished on the podium because he would of easily gotten as far as behind Kimi who would of somehow did the swap. But no we got a penalty as well as Lewis and others who did their share of wrongs. If you believe the FIA got it wrong with Bourdais then blame them and not Ferrari as I doubt it is Ferrari's doing.
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Re: That might well be true

By bud
-  12 Oct 08, 10:48#71111
breaking news :

Massa inherits another win other cars penalised for not being a Ferrari!

note: Kimi Raikkonen was penalised even though he was in a Ferrari for not being in championship contention.
More to follow......
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Re: That might well be true

By AKR
-  12 Oct 08, 10:54#71120
breaking news :

Massa inherits another win other cars penalised for not being a Ferrari!

note: Kimi Raikkonen was penalised even though he was in a Ferrari for not being in championship contention.
More to follow......


This is getting so not funny now......
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Re: That might well be true

By bud
-  12 Oct 08, 10:58#71123
breaking news :

Massa inherits another win other cars penalised for not being a Ferrari!

note: Kimi Raikkonen was penalised even though he was in a Ferrari for not being in championship contention.
More to follow......


This is getting so not funny now......

:wavey::D:rofl::wavey: see funny

Re: That might well be true

By Gaz
-  12 Oct 08, 10:58#71124
Yeh but suggesting one of...no infact the greatest racing driver in the history of the sport committed "crimes" against ferrari is just utter stupidity.

You have to look at other peoples point of view, it seams this season that the FIA has been very hard on Mclaren and alot of fans are very bitter about LH loosing his win in spa. And the two decisions that went against him today (directly and indirectly)

but there's no use bringing Senna in to this because thats just asking for trouble.


Then they (The other McLaren supporters) should stop calling Ferrari cheats as in the end they are just looking at their own point of view as well. If the FIA really wanted to cheat then why give Massa a drive through penalty at all today? Answer that. Had he not got that he could of easily had finished on the podium because he would of easily gotten as far as behind Kimi who would of somehow did the swap. But no we got a penalty as well as Lewis and others who did their share of wrongs. If you believe the FIA got it wrong with Bourdais then blame them and not Ferrari as I doubt it is Ferrari's doing.


There's no use going what if this and that.

Both drivers made mistakes regardless and both were punished i would say massa's was alot worse and lewis's was negligible.

But the fact is Massa Collided with Seb B and not the other way around and that is what alot of Mclaren fans are pissed off about.
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Re: That might well be true

By AKR
-  12 Oct 08, 11:01#71128
Yeh but suggesting one of...no infact the greatest racing driver in the history of the sport committed "crimes" against ferrari is just utter stupidity.

You have to look at other peoples point of view, it seams this season that the FIA has been very hard on Mclaren and alot of fans are very bitter about LH loosing his win in spa. And the two decisions that went against him today (directly and indirectly)

but there's no use bringing Senna in to this because thats just asking for trouble.


Then they (The other McLaren supporters) should stop calling Ferrari cheats as in the end they are just looking at their own point of view as well. If the FIA really wanted to cheat then why give Massa a drive through penalty at all today? Answer that. Had he not got that he could of easily had finished on the podium because he would of easily gotten as far as behind Kimi who would of somehow did the swap. But no we got a penalty as well as Lewis and others who did their share of wrongs. If you believe the FIA got it wrong with Bourdais then blame them and not Ferrari as I doubt it is Ferrari's doing.


There's no use going what if this and that.

Both drivers made mistakes regardless and both were punished i would say massa's was alot worse and lewis's was negligible.

But the fact is Massa Collided with Seb B and not the other way around and that is what alot of Mclaren fans are pissed off about.


Then perhaps the FIA has gotten that one wrong. But it is their mistake not Ferrari's fault. If the FIA wanted to cheat Massa would of gotten no penalty what so ever, but the reality is that he did.
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Re: That might well be true

By AKR
-  12 Oct 08, 11:07#71136
its never Ferraris fault AKR but thety dont complain with the benefits


Be realistic: no team would.


Agreed. McLaren certainly would not complain. Hey Bud I learnt a new Australian word. "Fair Dinkum". How about I say it like this. Realistically no team would complain against something in their favour, not even McLaren. You got to be fair dinkum about this. :wink:
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Re: That might well be true

By bud
-  12 Oct 08, 11:07#71137
its never Ferraris fault AKR but thety dont complain with the benefits


Be realistic: no team would.


to be realistic would be to hope for no team to have benefits but this is a corrupt world controlled by evil umpalumpa nazi lords who want to control all the bling bling $$$ :twisted:
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