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[billindenver]

Truthteller, when you get old enough your mommy will let you drive the car. The first time you drive in a really heavy rain you may notice a thing called hydroplaning. Now, on a racetrack we don't use tires with big grooves in them like on mommies escort...we use race tires, in Glock's case... dry tires. Now, take those tires out and run them for a while and they become essentially slicks. Then, put some water on the track and force those tires to cool off...and you get slick tires, not up to temp, not sticky AND hydroplaning due to water on the track (doesn't take a whole lot) and it gets harder to keep the car on the racing line...typically you go off wide...kinda like Glock did.

I know on your xbox you can drive through a hurricane with someone shooting at you and still control the car, but I can assure you...on a racetrack, things get a bit more complex. There is no conspiracy discussion because you are the only person with your head far enough up your arse to believe what you are saying. And this coming from a card carrying founding member of the Hamilton Dissenters Club...which means I hate the guy. But he won, get over it. Show some damn grit and stop your crying.

[scotty]

The simple fact of the matter is that the fastest final lap was set by Barichello who was on full wets, and was over 1 1/2 seconds faster than everyone else. Says it all really. If this guy wants to ignore that glaringly obvious fact in order to try and prove his bizarre point then it's his problem.

Absolutely laughable.

[Gaz]

Wet my ****.



Look at the photo, do your homework:

(1) It is not wet - not Spa wet nor Silverstone wet, so there is no way to lose that amount of time
(2) It is not raining - it is not pouring and Glock has been handling it for some 5 laps on drys and has kept his position
(3) Glock is not struggling - he doesnt lose control, reverse lock, spin out but merely pulls over RIDICULOUSLY

"It was very wet and the car was basically undriveable in those conditions. I was sliding everywhere, with absolutely no grip at all" (Timo Glock)

"What was it like in wet conditions with dry tyres?"

Timo replies "It was not so bad until the final lap when the rain really began to come down very heavily"

The TV coverage and the still pictures are everywhere on the internet. At the time of the incident, it was as dry as it had been for 3 laps. The circuit was drying out, look for yourselves.

Glock is all over the shop with his comments. He is an unreliable witness as he is being accused. It was raining, it was easy to drive, the last lap was hard, it was "impossible".... look at his lap times... they raise too many questions... tyres cool quickly not over 7 laps (from lap 63 when it started to rain).

On lap 63 it starts to rain, during Lap 62, reports on 5 Live state that the rain is starting to fall. Renault reports "drops of rain, drops of rain"
Lap 66: 1:17.992
Lap 67: 1:18.897
Lap 68: 1:18.816

rain starts to ease
Lap 69: 1:18.688

Almost dry on parts of the track
Lap 70: 1:28.041
Lap 71: 1:44.731

Parc Ferme it starts to chuck it down
It wasnt hard for Glock to drive and keep control when it was raining hard during laps 63-68 so what about lap 70 & 71 when the rain was non-existent and the track was dry enough to not be a problem for Glock?

It doesn't add up.

PS - Ref the "bordering on racist" comment. It was. Clearly. As a race relations legal professional and an equalities and diversity specialist, you really dont wan't that argument. Honestly, you really don't. Go and thumb through IGEN v Wong or better still Lord Nicholl's decision in Nagarajan (House of Lords). Then come back to me.

Your an absolute cretin you keep posting the same crap then people reply to it giving arguments why your wrong.

so you ignore those arguments and post the same crap again.

STOP IT YOU MUG

[headless]

This thread is lame

TRUTHTELLER YOU ARE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH
GET OVER IT
I DIDNT WANT HAMMY TO WIN, BUT AM NOT IN DENIAL

[headless]

Paranoia will destroy ya

Jamiroquai fan huh?

Defo Jamiroquai is brilliant

[texasmr2]

Paranoia will destroy ya

Man that takes me back because I saw this concert.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD6bQ3DQSLA

[headless]

What year would that have been?

[BlindCorner]

He didn't toss it, but Hamilton should be catching a lot more grief for nearly choking it away again. When the pressure is on, there is still much to be determined about him. Has anyone closed as poorly for two straight years?

Now that he has a championship, maybe he will calm down a bit.

[texasmr2]

What year would that have been?

1881. Oh my bad 1981.

[bmwpower]

but Hamilton should be catching a lot more grief for nearly choking it away again

and who's the 2008 World Champion?? people are discounting him based on one race?? on a race strategy that he had to followed?? What about Monaco, Austrialia, Britain, Germany and China?? As I recalled he won those superbly. Glock was LUCKY to be in the situation that he is because he was due for a tire change but the team gambled and he paid the price, either way LH would have passed him. I am known as not a LH supporter but I don't tried to hide the fact that LEWIS HAMILTON DESERVED the 2008 WORLD CHAMPION based on the whole season. BTW, you think LH really cares about any of this scrunity?? He's the World Champion and he's got a pussycat doll in bed and can we just stop

[texasmr2]

but Hamilton should be catching a lot more grief for nearly choking it away again

and who's the 2008 World Champion?? people are discounting him based on one race?? on a race strategy that he had to followed?? What about Monaco, Austrialia, Britain, Germany and China?? As I recalled he won those superbly. Glock was LUCKY to be in the situation that he is because he was due for a tire change but the team gambled and he paid the price, either way LH would have passed him. I am known as not a LH supporter but I don't tried to hide the fact that LEWIS HAMILTON DESERVED the 2008 WORLD CHAMPION based on the whole season and can we just stop

CALIFORNICATION at it's best!!

[7UpJordan]

What year would that have been?

1881. Oh my bad 1981.

1881? You're not THAT old are you?

Glock did not roll over for Lewis. Glock was one of Lewis' greatest rivals during the GP2 season, and early on this season Glock had a bit of a rant about Lewis "getting lucky" in getting the McLaren seat. So I can't exactly see him wanting to roll over for him.

As I've mentioned before the track conditions were similar to those at Spa when Lewis "cut the chicane" and when Kimi put it in the wall. Glock kept it on track unlike Kimi.

[prozac26]

[racechick]

He didn't toss it, but Hamilton should be catching a lot more grief for nearly choking it away again. When the pressure is on, there is still much to be determined about him. Has anyone closed as poorly for two straight years?

Now that he has a championship, maybe he will calm down a bit.

Closed poorly? How can you better runner up in your rookie year and then the world championship?? No one has bettered that!!
And he did calm down. He calmed down as instructerd by his team thats why it was so nail bitingly close.

[FerrariFan63]

Your an absolute cretin you keep posting the same crap then people reply to it giving arguments why your wrong.

so you ignore those arguments and post the same crap again.

STOP IT YOU MUG

TruthTellerF1 is not a mug, s/he/it's a troll. And a very successful one. It's the people who are responding to the trolling who are mugs. Or, by this stage, I think we can change that to "morons".