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By Tony_sa
#75554
To be honest I cant see either team go as far as to knock each other off the track on purpose.


not more of that please. these are professional people. dont go there ..........please man. except arrogant hamilton ofcos
Last edited by Tony_sa on 24 Oct 08, 09:37, edited 1 time in total.
#75652
What if, what if, what if. It's all conjecture and pointless hot air. Whoever it is that wins the Driver's championship or the Constructors will the the one who has amassed the most points, however they may have been awarded. Why don't you all just shut up & wait until after Brazil.



I would agreed with you on that apart from the fact France, Valancia, and Spa Happened


Ferrari absoultly dominated in France and also Valencia. Massa won in Valencia fair and sqaure. Giving Massa a penalty would of been pointless. I am not even going to argue that. And as for Spa, Lewis Hamilton broke the rules. All were fair Ferrari wins. That is all. :thumbup:
#75653
The constructors' title would still be ongoing, with McLaren favourites to win it. As it things are, Ferrari have a 99% of winning this season's official constructors' title. Enjoy what will be another hollow Ferrari victory. :thumbdown:


No I am sorry but Ferrari is the better constructor in 2008 and if they win it, they are the moral victors not McLaren. If you put aside the mistakes Ferrari has made, if they had not been made, Ferrari would be miles ahead by now in the constructors title. McLaren is only 11 points behind due to luck on Ferrari's mishaps. McLaren is inferior to Ferrari no arguement. Although I am prepared to concede that Lewis Hamilton is a good driver (I still hate the guy), he is the only reason why McLaren are in for a chance for the drivers. Well they very much have it in the bag unless he repeats what he did last season in Brazil. Heikki may be crap, but then of course he isn't because he drives for Mclaren and they wouldn't hire a crap driver. He is an average driver and basically Lewis Hamilton was able to push harder and get the results because he was better. Both Ferrari drivers are reasonably paced and both could deliver solid results. McLaren isn't the better constructor and it is as simple as that. Talk all the shiit you want, when and if Ferrari win the constructors title I will be celebrating a well deserved victory. You can think or say all the bullshiit in the world but in the end it is just that, bullshiit. That is all. :thumbup:
#75656
Yeah Ferrari have been the better team. 2 strong drivers scoring well while McLaren have only had LH as HK has been a bit :censored: So Ferrari deserve it this year No matter what some disgruntled McLaren lambs think
#75663
Yeah Ferrari have been the better team. 2 strong drivers scoring well while McLaren have only had LH as HK has been a bit :censored: So Ferrari deserve it this year No matter what some disgruntled McLaren lambs think


the driver one can quite easily be won by the less diserving guy, like it wasnt massas fault about the hose [funny tho] or the liht thing, or the reliability, where as lewis has made his own mistakes

the team championship is different, it was the team that hired the drivers, the team who fluff the pit stops, build the engines, etc

so, ferrari are diserving of the WCC, WDC, probably massa out of the 2 drivers still in it, [kubica out of the 3 before]
#75669
Yeah Ferrari have been the better team. 2 strong drivers scoring well while McLaren have only had LH as HK has been a bit :censored: So Ferrari deserve it this year No matter what some disgruntled McLaren lambs think


Only because kimi is better than Hekki. If we hadn't had as many punishments we would of had the WDC sorted and the WCC we would be in a great postion to win it.

The MP4-23 is Better than the F2008 on realibitly alone and actual race and qualy speed has bounced between the two.
#75749
No I am sorry but Ferrari is the better constructor in 2008 and if they win it, they are the moral victors not McLaren. If you put aside the mistakes Ferrari has made, if they had not been made, Ferrari would be miles ahead by now in the constructors title. McLaren is only 11 points behind due to luck on Ferrari's mishaps. McLaren is inferior to Ferrari no arguement. Although I am prepared to concede that Lewis Hamilton is a good driver (I still hate the guy), he is the only reason why McLaren are in for a chance for the drivers. Well they very much have it in the bag unless he repeats what he did last season in Brazil. Heikki may be crap, but then of course he isn't because he drives for Mclaren and they wouldn't hire a crap driver. He is an average driver and basically Lewis Hamilton was able to push harder and get the results because he was better. Both Ferrari drivers are reasonably paced and both could deliver solid results. McLaren isn't the better constructor and it is as simple as that. Talk all the shiit you want, when and if Ferrari win the constructors title I will be celebrating a well deserved victory. You can think or say all the bullshiit in the world but in the end it is just that, bullshiit. That is all. :thumbup:

I'm sorry, but Ferrari's mistakes are Ferrari's problem. If your lot can't get things together, then don't blame us. Moreover, do you think that Ferrari are the only team to have made mistakes this season? McLaren have made a couple of dodgy strategy calls and Hamilton has made some very poor errors as well. Kovalainen, for the most part, has been below par as well. So, McLaren are also well within their rights to feel a little bit driver limited. Further, not only are McLaren competing against Ferrari, principally, but the FIA as well. McLaren have been hit with some outrageous penalties and have to watch every move they make, while the FIA reward Ferrari's gaffes and shocking driving with championship points. The fact is McLaren have been the more slick outfit in these past couple of seasons. The team has made fewer mistakes than Ferrari, has produced a better all-round car than Ferrari, have developed their car more effectively than Ferrari, have had better levels of reliability than Ferrari etc. - all of this with having had the FIA inspect the design of the MP4-23 and fine the team $100,000,000. Ferrari really should be ashamed of themselves this season that they have not won the title at canter without any FIA help.
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#75837
what if Alonso took Hamilton out?

as he said he's going to help is best friend Massa as much as he can to win the champ!!!

Somehow I don't think Alonso would stoop to that level. Sure he whinged a fair bit last year and blocked Hamilton in the pits but taking him off would be a stupid idea. Besides if Alonso did want to take Hamilton off he'd probably tell Piquet to do it. :P
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